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Post by senatooorofspace on Sept 25, 2019 11:31:14 GMT -7
How do you do cocaine involuntarily? Did someone shoot it up his butt with a straw? Clench, dude, clench. Just likes the smell of it'd
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Post by bear on Sept 25, 2019 19:08:08 GMT -7
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Post by hokiejoe on Sept 26, 2019 6:00:07 GMT -7
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Post by bussit on Sept 26, 2019 6:07:36 GMT -7
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Post by bear on Sept 26, 2019 6:17:39 GMT -7
Trump thinks having a conversation with the Ukranian president saying he wasn't pressured will be enough to exonerate him, but anyone with a semblance of how Soviet bloc politics work knows that they would never admit to being coerced publicly because it displays weakness. As usual, if we follow the incentives it shows what and where the influences are affecting. It's the mafia-style transactional loyalty that Trump has been immersed in for a long time.
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Post by EddieBlake on Sept 26, 2019 6:23:29 GMT -7
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Post by hokiejoe on Sept 26, 2019 6:29:25 GMT -7
Nunes is such a bootlicker. I hope he eventually gets his.
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Post by bear on Sept 26, 2019 7:22:44 GMT -7
The spin machine in full effect. It was the 2016 Dem campaign that colluded with Russia, it was Biden's son who needed to be investigated, etc. whenever they do something that looks like it's from the Republican playbook, it is seized upon. Delegitamize, what-about, and deflect.
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Post by Don Swifty on Sept 26, 2019 7:34:28 GMT -7
Trump obviously fears Biden. Trump likely will survive any impeachment hearing once it reaches the Senate, if it even gets that far. This, along with other factors, might knock Biden out (https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/25/biden-iowa-new-hampshire-polls2020-1510351); pessimistic take - Trump wins re-election, though with a damaged rep as being only the third President impeached. www.politico.com/news/2019/09/25/biden-warren-impeachment-trump-001631The optimist in me remembers that impeachment against Nixon wasn't looking so strong, but ultimately it was the Republicans themselves who told him his time was up. I wouldn't cry if Biden exits because of this and more so because he's a weak candidate looking to the past who doesn't stir up any enthusiasm, and either Warren or Bernie get the nom and go on to win the general. Probably depends on the middle, since the ceiling of Trump's base is pretty set in stone, they're already motivated, and it's pretty much the same on the other side. Will the middle vote Trump because they think the Dems overreached, will they have grown tired of Trump, will they stay home? And as hokie mentioned upthread, all these assholes practice nepotism. It's funny to hear Trump complain, as if the fact that just being Biden's kid makes this a case of corruption. The kid sounds like a fuckup, but being born into a political family and taking advantage of that isn't a crime in and of itself. Trump's base will swallow anything he tells them. It's ironic that they can't even recognize that when Trump says he could shoot someone on 5'th Ave. and it wouldn't bother his base that he's really saying his base has such low moral standards and are complete lemmings.
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Post by hokiejoe on Sept 26, 2019 7:48:18 GMT -7
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Post by Don Swifty on Sept 26, 2019 7:49:42 GMT -7
He'd dig up his dead mother and throw her under the bus if he thought it'd help him.
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Post by bussit on Sept 26, 2019 12:43:36 GMT -7
This is going to be predictable and sad to see how tirelessly Nancy Pelosi is going to work on soft undermining this impeachment.
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Post by bear on Sept 26, 2019 13:10:46 GMT -7
How will this affect the 2020 election? Will an impeachment bolster Republicans? Will a lack of impeachment lead to a Democratic president?
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Post by waldowally on Sept 26, 2019 13:31:41 GMT -7
the republicans are going to have no choice. this is a smoking gun and he keeps digging the hole deeper. witness intimidation, so far has implicated Barr, Pence, and Guiliani himself through his stupidity.
Republicans cannot afford to lose all their senate seats in purple states
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Post by Don Swifty on Sept 26, 2019 13:44:43 GMT -7
Republicans losing House/Senate seats, even in purple states, because of the behavior of Trump, Barr, Guiliani, et. al. Is a big assumption. I wouldn't be surprised if Republicans just don't care. It's just as likely (more?) that as long as they get conservative judges, tax breaks, etc., even the Republicans who don't go for all the "Radical Left Wing Democrat Socialists!" rhetoric will continue to excuse the behavior.
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Post by waldowally on Sept 26, 2019 13:51:30 GMT -7
for example, Cory Gardner has a very tough road for reelection here in CO. if he goes on record supporting trump through this he is fucked and a Dem will definitely take his seat. same scenarios in AZ and about 5 other seats they are already embattled and their position on this mess will mean a lot they either have to decouple from trumps asshole or live with the fact that they most likely lose their seat
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Post by waldowally on Sept 26, 2019 13:53:57 GMT -7
their spin to biden/son has already been debunked for several years
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Post by senatooorofspace on Sept 26, 2019 14:56:24 GMT -7
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Post by Don Swifty on Sept 26, 2019 15:19:06 GMT -7
their spin to biden/son has already been debunked for several years I agree, there's no there, there, (other than terrible looking optics), but it won't matter. Just like how the Obama birther debunking didn't stop the Trump base from believing him. Lot of confirmation bias when it comes to politics.
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Post by Vibyl on Sept 26, 2019 16:55:37 GMT -7
Best part about him being impeached.....All those motherfuckers are have to go on record as voting for/against....when its plain he's a fuckin' crook...and they will have to live with the consequences....be it personal or career-wise...fuckers.
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