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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 11:25:45 GMT -7
That would be a very risky wager Wally. My guess is that the only thing Putin spend money other than caviar and champagne is his private military.
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Post by Don Swifty on Oct 8, 2015 11:32:40 GMT -7
Political correctness? Did the US not create and fund Osama bin Laden and jihadism to counter the Soviets in Afghanistan? White guilt? Sounds like you're stretching and trying to avoid the topic by attacking the messenger instead of the message. Not effective. I'm neither Catholic or Jewish; guilt just isn't part of my psyche, though being honest about what's what is. Again, ineffective response. What "real threat" is it that I am not recognizing? The biggest threat to my life is getting hit by a crazy car, taxi or combi driver while I'm out and about. I have absolutely zero fear of dying because of an act of terrorism or having a foreign country rain bombs down on me, which if you're the one being bombed is indistinguishable from what you consider terrorism. You say you have no fear of being shot but instead have a fear of jihadists. Who's really not recognizing the real threat and who's living in irrational fear of an unlikely event happening to them because some pundit and/or chicken hawk tells them they should be afraid? Very afraid. Did you see that chart that Lerner posted the other day comparing deaths in the US by crime to deaths by terrorism? If you have no fear of getting shot, rationally you should have far less fear of dying at the hands of a jihadist terrorist. When's the last time an act of terrorism struck Ocean Beach? San Diego? California? How 'bout a murder or death by gun? Keep swallowing what your fellow chicken hawks and war pigs are feeding you and stay afraid of things and people that are different than you. And try to come up with something far more convincing then P.C. and white guilt. Yawn. You can do better than that.
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Post by PooDolla on Oct 8, 2015 11:40:08 GMT -7
yup. PC and white guilt.
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Post by waldowally on Oct 8, 2015 11:41:50 GMT -7
The same threat of mutually assured destruction holds true today. Putin is crazy but I don't think he wants to end the world.
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Post by betterweather1239 on Oct 8, 2015 11:45:12 GMT -7
I would agree. I think he wants a statue in Red Square.
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Post by Don Swifty on Oct 8, 2015 11:47:33 GMT -7
So what? I'm sure in the Middle East your counterpart posts videos of flag waving fundamentalist Christians. Extremists trying to convince the less paranoid among us that it's the evil others who are extremists out to kill us all. So easy to instead of looking at a situation rationally to just paint the others with a broad brush and believe they're all extremists, instead of realizing that most reject extremism. You unthinking extremists should all go to an isolated island and duke it out while leaving the rest of the world to the majority who are rational thinkers who far outnumber the paranoid. Since the neo-cons have already armed, trained and funded the Islamic extremists you only need worry about arming and training yourselves. No being a chicken hawk and sending others to do your fighting for you.
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Post by betterweather1239 on Oct 8, 2015 11:50:15 GMT -7
'Merica is better nuff said. Commie Muslim traitor gay.
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Post by Don Swifty on Oct 8, 2015 11:54:48 GMT -7
'Merica is better nuff said. Commie Muslim traitor gay. You forgot atheist. Commie Atheist Muslim traitor gay.
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Post by betterweather1239 on Oct 8, 2015 11:55:51 GMT -7
And illegal immigrant, damn.
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Post by Don Swifty on Oct 8, 2015 12:05:48 GMT -7
You could probably throw Jew in there if you wanted to be a completist. Though Atheist Muslim Jew doesn't really make any rational sense, but who are we kidding? The crowd this appeals to doesn't really respond to rationality in the first place. Just throw out some key words to appeal to their emotions and, yee-haw, all good. Let's bomb 'em and fix god's mistake for putting our oil under their sand!
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Post by bussit on Oct 8, 2015 12:09:57 GMT -7
There's not going to be anything left to explode in Syria once all these different groups of people get done with it. That must suck for the people there.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 14:14:57 GMT -7
^ the United States Military Industrial complex always has it's eyes on the Horizon.
As for the Paper Tiger thing, most Patriotic Americans who view America as superior in most every way share this opinion, the reality is we're scared not only of Russia but their influence, always have been fear has motivated us into most of our conflicts.... Fear of Russian Influence, which is funny coming from the country who kills, blows up, and treads on people more than anyone else for about the last 75 years.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 14:19:45 GMT -7
The great Irony is, by several accounts Russia had a hand in the American Civil War that favored America, thogh it was under the Czar. Russians started huge Revolutions.
Well, so much for history, details and such.
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Post by PooDolla on Oct 8, 2015 14:23:25 GMT -7
lol...oh jeez. really?
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Post by waldowally on Oct 8, 2015 15:00:49 GMT -7
^ the United States Military Industrial complex always has it's eyes on the Horizon. As for the Paper Tiger thing, most Patriotic Americans who view America as superior in most every way share this opinion, the reality is we're scared not only of Russia but their influence, always have been fear has motivated us into most of our conflicts.... Fear of Russian Influence, which is funny coming from the country who kills, blows up, and treads on people more than anyone else for about the last 75 years. Russian influence. Lol
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 15:16:59 GMT -7
The same threat of mutually assured destruction holds true today. Putin is crazy but I don't think he wants to end the world. Mutally assured destruction assures Putin that he can wage conventional war abroad indefinitely and never fear an invasion of his home turf. He has plenty of good modern weapons and some battle tested troops from the jihad/wars Russian Federation (1991–present) War of Transnistria (1992) Transnistria Russia Moldova Victory Transnistria gains de facto independence. Boris Yeltsin East Prigorodny Conflict (1992) Russia North Ossetia–Alania North Ossetia South Ossetia Ingush militia Victory Ethnic cleansing of ethnic Ingush from Prigorodny. Civil War in Tajikistan (1992–1997) Tajikistan Russia Uzbekistan UTO Taliban Stalemate United Nations-sponsored armistice. Georgian Civil War (1993) Georgia (country) Georgia Russia Georgia (country) Zviadists Victory Zviadist revolt crushed. First Chechen War (1994–1996) Russia Flag of Chechen Republic of Ichkeria.svg Ichkeria Mujahideen Defeat Withdrawal of Russian Armed Forces from Chechnya. War of Dagestan (1999) Russia IIPB Victory Start of the Second Chechen War. Vladimir Putin Second Chechen War (1999–2009) Russia Flag of Chechen Republic of Ichkeria.svg Ichkeria Caucasian Front Mujahideen Victory Debellation of Ichkeria. Russo-Georgian War (2008) Russia South Ossetia Abkhazia Georgia Victory Expansion of Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Dmitry Medvedev North Caucasus Insurgency (2009–) Russia Caucasus Emirate ISIL (from 2015) Ongoing Ongoing insurgency. Annexation of Crimea (2014) Russia Ukraine Victory Russia invades and annexes Crimea. Vladimir Putin War in Donbass (2014–) Russia Donetsk Luhansk Ukraine Ongoing Minsk II Intervention in Syria (2015–) Russia Syrian Government InfoboxHez.PNG Hezbollah Iran ISIL Army of Conquest Syrian Opposition PYD (Syrian Kurds)[1] Ongoing Russian intervention in support of Assad government. Syria 2015- ongoing
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 15:19:50 GMT -7
Stupidest move anyone ever made anywhere in any conflict or competition is to underestimate their adversary. Do not underestimate Vlad Putin.
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Post by gbfan on Oct 8, 2015 15:24:47 GMT -7
People, war is no joke, this shit is real, when I was with my ex, a lot of my time was spent with her mother in the ole psych ward, she tried to off herself (and I wouldn't tell anyone this if it wasn't real) because all she heard was bombs dropping from her younger days in Pristine, now Albania during the 'War in Kosovo.' War is real (lolcano, poo, wally), let us all hope as Americans that it never hits this soil.. FOR REAL
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Post by gbfan on Oct 8, 2015 15:25:25 GMT -7
Let's dose Putin, that would be epic..
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Post by gbfan on Oct 8, 2015 15:26:19 GMT -7
then force-smoke him some DMT while he is peaking.. epic
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