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Post by lordkundalini on Sept 27, 2017 6:15:25 GMT -7
interesting read. my take is that it sure does appear to be panpsychism but i suspect in some paradoxical nature emergentism is behind it all. It may be that it is a kind of combination of both... panpsychism-emergentism...heh. im big lately on reality and paradox.. trying to understand how something can be different apparently conflicting things at the same time, aka the double slit is it wave, is it particle separate but one and i have to assume thats their are things i have not contemplated that would dramatically change how i view reality i do feel awareness is in everything and from the point of view of that awareness their is some separation. i suspect the less interaction in the material reality an awareness has, the more presence the awareness has on a higher plane. oh if I only get that boulder to talk to me. i do try to communicate with trees fairly often
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Post by lordkundalini on Sept 27, 2017 7:54:18 GMT -7
very nice.. i just got couple of Grof books 2 days ago. i forget which 2.. i was getting bunch of books
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Post by lordkundalini on Sept 27, 2017 11:11:01 GMT -7
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2017 21:52:15 GMT -7
very nice.. i just got couple of Grof books 2 days ago. i forget which 2.. i was getting bunch of books His book of different essays by experts on Spiritual Emergency (as in emergence) is great....good one on meditation from Ram Dass and Jack Kornfield in there..It is how I found out what I was experiencing was called 'Unitive Consciousness'....fucking mind-blowing.....bliss indeed.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2017 3:35:07 GMT -7
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Post by lordkundalini on Sept 28, 2017 6:01:45 GMT -7
very nice.. i just got couple of Grof books 2 days ago. i forget which 2.. i was getting bunch of books His book of different essays by experts on Spiritual Emergency (as in emergence) is great....good one on meditation from Ram Dass and Jack Kornfield in there..It is how I found out what I was experiencing was called 'Unitive Consciousness'....fucking mind-blowing.....bliss indeed. i was unfamiliar with the term Unitive Consciousness,, though familiar with what it is experientiallly.. spending the morning reading up on that... thanks for that!
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Post by lordkundalini on Sept 28, 2017 8:28:26 GMT -7
spiritualpaths.net/mystical-experience-or-unitive-seeing-by-cynthia-bourgeault/And it s true that this consciousness does indeed operate at a higher level of vibrational intensity, which at first can overwhelm our normal cognitive systems. The contemporary mystic Philip St. Romain describes it as being rewired from 110 volts to 220. But the point is not to squander this infusion of energy on bliss trips, but to learn to contain it within a quiet and spacious consciousness and allow it to permanently bring about a shift in our operating system, so that unitive (or nondual) perception becomes our ordinary, and completely normal mode of perception.i was doing this on the train this morning. attempting to rewire my brain something had irritated me and i caught it right away and thought to myself, this is silly so i started sending my love and giving a big namaste to everyone on the train i could see and did some mind programming exercises for a while then dropped into a short meditation if you dont see love in all then you dont know love at all...wookiefoot
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2017 17:16:42 GMT -7
Last time it happened it stayed the longest....about a month and a half. Have learned quite well how to function...is very intense energy and constant synchronicity makes a whole different ball game, as it were.
Was experiencing this state during a clinical in grad school, observing a teacher and small class in a resource room. I was sitting behind the 5 or six students and watching the teacher as she conducted a reading lesson. When I was trying to figure some things out connected to this state of being, I tested things out a lot. So I began to mentally help the kid directly in front of me, just directing my awareness toward the lesson and specifically him....At the end of the lesson, he quickly turned around, looked at me, and yelled, 'PSYCHIC!'....Scared the shit out of me...lol. He wasn't freaked out by it, but I sure as hell was...I've had other experiences like that teaching, but that was the first. I don't consciously (on purpose) project like that since then, it is rude/frowned upon to do someone who is not aware, intrusive, but sometimes it can happen. Kids are especially perceptive with this, being naturally 'open'.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2017 3:05:50 GMT -7
Just one comment about the info in that link....Seems to be Christian flavored, and it could be that the author, although she doesn't really reference it, has this view, but the overwhelming aspect you experience when you have this going on is that there is no, none, nada dogma attached to this....As a matter of fact, you can feel how utterly senseless it is....and how needful it is for humanity to move past -isms and all the rest....and just learn to Be. Just that, only that. ..Religion is only a bridge...a tool...Realizing the unity of all things wipes all that away. It is an overpowering feeling of Peace. A complete centered-ness. You feel as if you could never move the rest of your life and be completely good with that. Sometimes that is the hardest part about it, ironically....because you have to live in the world. If I lived in a cave or on the plains of Africa or in the rainforest...not so much of a problem. There was a time I seriously considered it...just checking out from 'society'. Ultimately, I decided a better way to honor it was to serve others vs. trying to keep it for myself, if that makes sense. Working with children provides me with immense joy.
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Post by lordkundalini on Sept 29, 2017 6:25:50 GMT -7
Just one comment about the info in that link....Seems to be Christian flavored, and it could be that the author, although she doesn't really reference it, has this view, but the overwhelming aspect you experience when you have this going on is that there is no, none, nada dogma attached to this....As a matter of fact, you can feel how utterly senseless it is....and how needful it is for humanity to move past -isms and all the rest....and just learn to Be. Just that, only that. ..Religion is only a bridge...a tool...Realizing the unity of all things wipes all that away. It is an overpowering feeling of Peace. A complete centered-ness. You feel as if you could never move the rest of your life and be completely good with that. Sometimes that is the hardest part about it, ironically....because you have to live in the world. If I lived in a cave or on the plains of Africa or in the rainforest...not so much of a problem. There was a time I seriously considered it...just checking out from 'society'. Ultimately, I decided a better way to honor it was to serve others vs. trying to keep it for myself, if that makes sense. Working with children provides me with immense joy. ive become more tolerant of the religious. i guess ive developed more respect for others on different paths then me.. i dont know what they need, why they are here, ect.. i used to scoff at the religious.. no more. all roads lead home to the unity of one.. all i can do is hope it provides what they need and by doing that help the human race. everything is necessary it seems or it wouldn't be i suspect i think the most important thing anyone can do is remove the baggage, the Karma the cause them to incarnate into the density of the material. im also a big fan of the theory of needing x amount of enlightened souls to trigger a vibratory shift in the human species taking with them all but those that have no interest in leaving the material world and its duality it may sound selfish to some but the best thing one can do from my viewpoint is work on themselves, though this certainly includes helping others to learn lessons about yourself and of course raising your vibration. oh and new anti-shadow mantra is it dont fucking matter, cause it really dont.. i am everything yet nothing. i use it when i dont want to deal with the lessen the shadow is trying to show me at that point. but in the end the shadow must be embraced to move on
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2017 14:32:28 GMT -7
"The orgasm is a strong analgesic. With brain-activation studies of orgasm showing unique patterns of activation in regions implicated in attention, self-awareness and consciousness, researchers believe its study may also help with the control of pain.
Orgasm is a special case of consciousness,” says Barry Komisaruk at Rutgers University in Newark, New Jersey. “If we can look at different ways of inducing orgasm, we may better understand how we can use top-down processing to control what we physically feel.”
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2017 14:36:27 GMT -7
"Why DO orgasms feel so good? Neuroscientist explains how sexual stimulation re-routes brain activity to reach an 'altered state of consciousness' akin to a seizure Northwestern University neuroscience professor Adam Safron has made the first comprehensive model of what orgasms do to brain activity He found parallels between orgasm and seizures in the brain Sexual stimulation literally re-routes brain activity, creating a trance A sense of rhythm is 'crucial to adequately stimulate one's partner' He believes we subconsciously seek mates with rhythm-keeping ability"
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2017 15:53:49 GMT -7
ive become more tolerant of the religious. i guess ive developed more respect for others on different paths then me.. i dont know what they need, why they are here, ect.. i used to scoff at the religious.. no more. all roads lead home to the unity of one.. all i can do is hope it provides what they need and by doing that help the human race. The only time I get bothered by religion is when they start trying to make laws that suit their social agendas....stay out of my life with your rigid view of life...thank you very much. You do you.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2017 15:58:11 GMT -7
Indeed Andrea, Tantra is the Way through sex...wouldn't mind trying some of that out for sure..When I'm going through my thing it doesn't feel orgasmic/or sexual...just peaceful.
You'll like this then...there's also erotic meditation...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2017 16:00:40 GMT -7
He believes we subconsciously seek mates with rhythm-keeping ability" ahh..so that's why I've always been with music men...
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Post by lordkundalini on Oct 3, 2017 6:21:39 GMT -7
ive become more tolerant of the religious. i guess ive developed more respect for others on different paths then me.. i dont know what they need, why they are here, ect.. i used to scoff at the religious.. no more. all roads lead home to the unity of one.. all i can do is hope it provides what they need and by doing that help the human race. The only time I get bothered by religion is when they start trying to make laws that suit their social agendas....stay out of my life with your rigid view of life...thank you very much. You do you. agreed on that. believe what want as long as your beliefs dont involve telling me what to do spiritually, religiously, what i do to my body ect..................... i feel lots who try to force their beliefs on others is more about validating their belief structure or attaining power over me then truly helping me i truly hope they get what they need as well
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2017 15:41:15 GMT -7
A good read and interesting website....Excerpts write from various sources realitysandwich.com/221576/cosmic-consciousness-transcendence-and-dissociation/A trip on 5-MEO... There was a feeling of being in the nucleus of the psyche. Awareness of “all and everything” and simultaneously, “This is IT.” The Vedantists say at the highest level of consciousness there is only being (sat), consciousness (chit) and blissful joy (ananda). In my experience there was no self, no body, no time or space, but there was being. There was also consciousness: I could remember everything afterwards. Even though “I” wasn’t there, there was observation and recording going on. And there was certainly bliss, joy, ecstasy unimaginable.
Think my next excursion with a plant will be San Pedro. Have learned how to prepare and where to procure.
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