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Post by lordkundalini on Nov 21, 2018 8:32:37 GMT -7
i had a close friend get popped and go to jail for growing..
id rather that not be an option.. Am I wrong for wanting that?
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Post by Don Swifty on Nov 21, 2018 8:34:37 GMT -7
What you care about is the bubble you live in. I guess I just assumed your bubble was alot bigger. My bad I wouldn't assume that anyone with narcissistic tendencies has a bubble any larger than that which includes them. |
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Post by Not your moms 🌮 on Nov 21, 2018 8:35:27 GMT -7
Do you like wal mart, generic beer, artificial flavors, fungicides, freedom of choice and supporting local business people?
How about exotic cannabis strains that have been worked for generations?
Had no idea you preferred the big mac and naty ice of cannabis?
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Post by ferd on Nov 21, 2018 8:35:41 GMT -7
It's a Robert Graham custom lork shaped bubble.
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Post by Not your moms 🌮 on Nov 21, 2018 8:36:38 GMT -7
i had a close friend get popped and go to jail for growing.. id rather that not be an option.. Am I wrong for wanting that? What makes you think that will change? I promise coorperate weed will not hire him and does not want competition. |
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Post by lordkundalini on Nov 21, 2018 8:41:30 GMT -7
Do you like wal mart, generic beer, artificial flavors, fungicides, freedom of choice and supporting local business people? How about exotic cannabis strains that have been worked for generations? Had no idea you preferred the big mac and naty ice of cannabis? what are you talking about?. i like my friends to not go to prison for growing. you like people going to prison? i had no idea you preferred people to go to jail over not having that risk
as I told you, i would not go to a dispensary... i would support people i know.. and the strains they grow. so not much change for me cept the police risk..
im truly sorry that your game will have to change but its far more important to keep people out of prison in my view and i find it selfish of you to not see that
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Post by Don Swifty on Nov 21, 2018 8:42:11 GMT -7
I'd like to see weed treated like any other fruit, vegetable, or flower. Don't arrest people and put them in jail for possession or use. I'm not as concerned about regulations as far as how it's used. Drinking in public is illegal in most places. I'm cool with weed being treated the same if that's what it takes to keep people out of the legal system.
As far as the economics, I'd like to see it so that anyone can grow in their vegetable garden or indoors if they prefer. For those that can't or don't want to grow their own, I'm only concerned with the grower and the end user. Fuck the middleman. All they would do is artificially raise the price.
The middleman currently serves a purpose by providing a valuable service to those who don't know any growers and who for legal reasons prefer to remain low-key. In a society where weed is not illegal that service won't be needed any longer.
If growing weed were no more illegal than growing tomatoes the growers could advertise their product direct to the consumer on Craigslist, ebay, the local newspaper, etc.. There would be no more need for the middleman since his services would no longer be necessary. People would most likely buy locally, but if there were a specific strain or product not locally available it could be acquired via internet. Weed is the type of product where the small grower should have an advantage. If you can easily find quality at a good price there is no reason to buy overpriced mass produced. Unless you're the type that goes for the whole lifestyle image that a brand sells you in addition to their product.
As with just about every other product, the market will sort out the good stuff from the crap. Reputations will be developed. Good growers should flourish, bad growers will have to compete with price or find themselves out of the market. Low startup investment/ease of growing would ensure that the market isn't controlled by an oligopoly and would provide stay at home job opportunities/micro-businesses.
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Post by chronicircle on Nov 21, 2018 8:43:27 GMT -7
i had a close friend get popped and go to jail for growing.. id rather that not be an option.. Am I wrong for wanting that? What makes you think that will change? I promise coorperate weed will not hire him and does not want competition. what makes you think that wouldn't change? you assume legalization doesn't include personal grow ops up to a certain number of plants? you think the gov't will crack down on every single personal grow op?
like I said earlier why change any of the current laws then if it'll be like that....
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Post by lordkundalini on Nov 21, 2018 8:45:47 GMT -7
i had a close friend get popped and go to jail for growing.. id rather that not be an option.. Am I wrong for wanting that? What makes you think that will change? I promise coorperate weed will not hire him and does not want competition.
are growers in Colorado going to jail? how about oregon, cali ect.
hire who? what are you talking about? legal or not, i know people who grow.
im sorry but legalization will not force me to go to walmart..
and Id be happy to come to your place when its all legal and check out your strains and give you a wad of cash. what more can i do.
legal > illegal
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Post by lordkundalini on Nov 21, 2018 8:46:35 GMT -7
i dont think the sky is falling.
they have home brew stores.. why haven't they been shut down?
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Post by Not your moms 🌮 on Nov 21, 2018 8:47:15 GMT -7
Ask anyone in any legal state. Growers are losing rights not growing them.
I have said it already. They will let you grow long enough to support the new laws then change it.
I get your views. So do the polititians. They are just fucking with you. Sorry.
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Post by Not your moms 🌮 on Nov 21, 2018 8:49:47 GMT -7
i dont think the sky is falling. they have home brew stores.. why haven't they been shut down? I explained that already a few posts back. |
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Post by lordkundalini on Nov 21, 2018 8:51:12 GMT -7
Ask anyone in any legal state. Growers are losing rights not growing them. I have said it already. They will let you grow long enough to support the new laws then change it. I get your views. So do the polititians. They are just fucking with you. Sorry.
perhaps, perhaps not. im not a fortune teller.
time will tell.
but for most people, legal is better than illegal.. sorry.. thats reality.
and i suspect the penalty for growing in you worst case scenario will be far less then growing in an illegal environment.
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Post by chronicircle on Nov 21, 2018 8:51:22 GMT -7
I believe you taco.
but I mean, I have a hard time believing the gov't will be going door to door to see if people are growing a plant or 2 for personal use if when it becomes legal.
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Post by lordkundalini on Nov 21, 2018 9:00:11 GMT -7
i dont really think they are going to put more resources after legalization into looking for growers then before legalization.
so the the only really thing that will change for growers in Tacos worst case scenario is more competition.
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Post by Don Swifty on Nov 21, 2018 9:04:13 GMT -7
I could see a legality where the big corporations are granted the right to grow, the guy growing in his closet or one or two plants during the summer won't be bothered with (as long as they keep that # low as dictated by the law), but anyone looking to grow more than a plant or three and/or has the intent to sell his product in the "free" market as a micro entrepreneur will face legal consequences for not being properly licensed or some other such shit - i.e. they're competing against "Big Canna." This will keep prices artificially higher than necessary and provide tax revenue to governments.
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Post by waldowally on Nov 21, 2018 9:11:41 GMT -7
Ask anyone in any legal state. Growers are losing rights not growing them. I have said it already. They will let you grow long enough to support the new laws then change it. I get your views. So do the polititians. They are just fucking with you. Sorry. all my buddies in CO are doing just fine. |
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Post by lordkundalini on Nov 21, 2018 9:18:41 GMT -7
in the end i think this is an over reaction to the loss of income.
it sucks that some growers may have to get real job.
but as i said, id be happy to drive to michigan and check out Tacos strains when legal.
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Post by deadphishbiscuits on Nov 21, 2018 9:24:55 GMT -7
Do you like wal mart, generic beer, artificial flavors, fungicides, freedom of choice and supporting local business people? How about exotic cannabis strains that have been worked for generations? Had no idea you preferred the big mac and naty ice of cannabis? Big Mac OG and Natty ice haze are pretty fuggin dank strains Just sayin  |
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Post by Don Swifty on Nov 21, 2018 9:35:22 GMT -7
in the end i think this is an over reaction to the loss of income. it sucks that some growers may have to get real job. but as i said, id be happy to drive to michigan and check out Tacos strains when legal. Unless one chooses to side with big corporations who would likely want to see small growers kept out of the market, why would growers have to get "real jobs?" Is growing a crop not a "real job?" Would you tell a small farmer pushed out by Big Ag that he has to get a real job and that what he was doing before doesn't count as a real job? What exactly is a "real job?" One where someone signs a paycheck in exchange for labor/services, or anything that involves work regardless of how one is paid for that work? If weed is treated with the same legality as other crops it won't be the growers who will be losing income and needing to get real jobs, but the middlemen who depend on the illegality of weed for their income. |
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