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Post by senatooorofspace on Sept 20, 2015 11:33:49 GMT -7
Annnnnnd...argue.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2015 13:48:36 GMT -7
I think this guy is a Commie.
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Post by senatooorofspace on Sept 20, 2015 15:33:40 GMT -7
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Post by dirtyrice on Sept 20, 2015 17:26:29 GMT -7
I think this guy is a Commie. Loi i think you would agree with his views on the private prison industrial complex
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Post by Lakai on Sept 20, 2015 18:34:56 GMT -7
He seems like the only genuine person in the race right now.
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Post by waldowally on Sept 20, 2015 18:51:05 GMT -7
He is the only candidate that wants real change
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Post by Don Swifty on Sept 20, 2015 21:27:47 GMT -7
But wasn't the 2008 election all about change? If we change from the change we could wind up back where we were before we got the change to begin with. This, along with staring at the cat avatar in the post above, is confusing the hell out of me. Politics is so much easier to follow in Perú. As many candidates that are running in the US primaries will be running for President in 2016. Ask anyone what the difference is and they'll all say the same. There is none. They're all corrupt. Damn, that cat is trippy. I'd vote for that cat.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2015 11:18:11 GMT -7
I want to hear his thoughts on the Middle East specifically what he thinks about the Arab Israeli conflict
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Post by lordkundalini on Sept 21, 2015 11:47:07 GMT -7
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2015 14:10:46 GMT -7
I was joking about the commie comment, cmon guys yo know I was a MArxist at one point
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2015 14:26:11 GMT -7
lol I guess my comment just catapolted this shit into ggeneral discussion.
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Post by Don Swifty on Sept 21, 2015 18:49:41 GMT -7
This may have been discussed/answered at the old forum (idk), but if you truly believe the big war is between corporations and people, and that "our real enemies are the multi-national corporations who are trying to control this nation and the world," enough so to use a giant sized font, why have you chosen to work for a corporation, and a corporation in the financial sector at that? I'm not suggesting that by doing so it means one is totally aligned with all of The Corporation's ideals or that it makes one some sort of corporate Darth Cheney, but it's kind of like a vegan PETA activist working at an abattoir while posting about the evils of killing and eating animals from the office computer. Especially when there's options other than working for a corporation where one can make an equally comfortable living - working for a small, or non-corporate business, self-employment, black market, something more aligned with 'people' instead of 'corporations,' etc..
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Post by senatooorofspace on Sept 21, 2015 19:46:18 GMT -7
"The fact that Clinton’s largest campaign contributors are companies like Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, and Morgan Stanley is not an irrelevant factor. If you don’t think this will create difficulties for Clinton that Sanders will not have, you are vastly underestimating the influence donors have over candidates. Sanders has and will continue to have an unparalleled freedom to speak his mind on each and every issue, a trait which will continue to captivate an electorate starving for political honesty and transparency. This is an advantage that he has not only over the democratic candidates, but all the presidential candidates alike." www.secularnirvanablog.com/what-the-pundits-and-experts-fail-to-understand-about-the-bernie-sanders-phenomenon/
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Post by dirtyrice on Sept 21, 2015 19:55:50 GMT -7
Has Goldman Sachs ever failed? They seem to hit the lottery every quarter. I am glad they are in the Dow Jones
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Post by senatooorofspace on Sept 21, 2015 20:03:30 GMT -7
"The one and only complement that experts can seem to give Sanders is that there is a certain “authenticity” which endears him to voters, an attribute which they consider positive but marginal. But they fail to see how profound the statement they are making really is, so let me decompress it.
What pundits are saying is that people seem to like Bernie Sanders because they believe that he is the only candidate who isn’t lying to them or taking money from special interests to satisfy his political ambitions. Take a second to truly think about that statement, and ask yourself how “marginal” of an edge that is."
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Post by Don Swifty on Sept 21, 2015 22:15:30 GMT -7
"The fact that Clinton’s largest campaign contributors are companies like Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, and Morgan Stanley is not an irrelevant factor. If you don’t think this will create difficulties for Clinton that Sanders will not have, you are vastly underestimating the influence donors have over candidates. Sanders has and will continue to have an unparalleled freedom to speak his mind on each and every issue, a trait which will continue to captivate an electorate starving for political honesty and transparency. This is an advantage that he has not only over the democratic candidates, but all the presidential candidates alike." www.secularnirvanablog.com/what-the-pundits-and-experts-fail-to-understand-about-the-bernie-sanders-phenomenon/Unfortunately in American politics, it takes Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, et. al., kind of campaign contributions in order to be able to afford the unparalleled freedom to speak your mind on each and every issue. A good chunk of the American electorate respond to the messages they see on TV and with her cash, Hillary's not going to having any problem buying up time on the boob tube. Those above mentioned corporations as well as other big players have been dominating politics for such a long time and it's never bothered the overwhelming majority of the American electorate all that much before so I don't think it'll be any different now. The two parties have sucked any hope for inspiration out of the political system. People are resigned to the fact that they're not going to get candidates or a government they can feel good about so they'll just accept the shit sandwich they'll be served. I'd like to see Bernie do well, but I doubt he's going to get play anywhere outside of the NE and the left coast. Should he have legs as a candidate and make it to Super Tuesday and the Southern contests a lot of people will be too scared (after being barraged with negative campaigning) to pull the lever for him. Unfortunately, it's going to be Hillary and some other center-right Republican in the general. I hope I'm wrong. This cynical old bastard would love to be surprised.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 6:14:49 GMT -7
Every past election for I dont know how many years has been the candidate that spends the most.
In America money buys elections in large, for Capitalists it's just Capitalism at work. Maybe it went slighly too far...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 6:20:25 GMT -7
* Candidates do't spend, but rather how influential their financers are.
I'd vote for Bernie
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Post by lordkundalini on Sept 22, 2015 6:52:40 GMT -7
bigswifty--thats the font that came up. deal with it or whine and complain. you made your choice
ive no interest in justifying myself to you any longer.. its a waste of time. its easy to pick apart someone never really knowing the full picture. i do what suits me to achieve my goals. do you know what my goals are? NO
if you want to talk about me start a thread brah..
i dont work for a multinational corp.. i work for a 40 person consulting firm. but you can pretend its the same if you want and im sure you will.
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Post by lordkundalini on Sept 22, 2015 6:54:10 GMT -7
and bigswifty.. lets here what you are doing to change the world.
sounds like nothing but whining about me
lol
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