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Post by lordkundalini on Dec 21, 2020 14:29:24 GMT -7
Im with you!!!!! I have a giant garden.. How much food do you grow? Lots I imagine right? I sure do. My entire backyard is a garden of fruits, veggies and flowers and we also buy lots from the local farmers market.
but in the end we have to deal with the reality of the environment factors today. You whining about how things are does not change them at all though venting can be helpful to you I imagine..
might I suggest you research what Hedging is vs speculation.
Hedging food price risks essentially refers to the purchase of insurance against sharp food price fluctuations, transferring the risk to financial institutions or traders. So what we do is transfer risk farmers face to those evil traders you speak about. the Winthorps of the world. aka Hedging.
It helps farmers lock in profit which unfortunately, like medicine is a for profit and essential industry..
I just snapped my fingers and by golly, the system did not go to non profit.
so whats your solution? How do you change the system without people starving or going without Health care. both industries I feel should be non profit.
so whats the fix and how do you implement it? Im very curious to hear a solution now that you have vented. You do have one right?
Not growing nearly as much food as I used to when I lived on farms and was very active in Permaculture. Kind of hard to do so living in the city, but will be moving back to the country on some land so I'll be getting my hands deep in soil again. I'm hardly whining, and am kind of surprised since you seem to often bring up your distaste for greed, capitalism, flouride, vaccinations, all sorts of stuff that I guess you'd consider venting, not whining. How one regularly brings up the negativity of greed, capitalism, etc. but continues to work in the Big Finance section of Capitalism Inc. is beyond me, but I'd bet you have a way to do so while holding seemingly contrasting views. The irony of the discrepancy is funny to see posted, not just by me, but others who've noticed it as well, even if you don't, or don't want to acknowledge it. How the markets doing today? Making big profits for your firm and their clients, none of whom are investing with any goal in mind other than profit? when you were on tour slinging, was your goal profit? or did you sell everything at cost? did you ever custie anybody? or were slinging to help the world? LOL If so, how did you help the world? by slinging substances? sounds noble!
your ignorance is showing, you really have no clue on what hedging is.
our clients are farmers and processors whose goal is of course to profit and to produce food for the world to eat. people need to eat. I cant really say if there are other goals like producing good food for people to eat .. its all about Risk Management and profit margin control. so if a farmer loses or does not make enough on the food side due to wild fluctuations the price of commodities, he will make up that difference on the finance side if the correct hedge is in place.
upside is you have a more predictable profit curve and wont go bankrupt due to a wild swing in commodity value and will put a floor in on how much you can lose.
downside is you are placing a ceiling on how much you can make. . helps food producers sleep better at night.
here is an example. say a farmer can sell futures today for say next june on his hogs and lock in the price of feed today using futures or options and lock in say a 10% profit margin, and his typical margin is say 8%. do you lock in the 10% today or dont hedge and are at the mercy of the markets and perhaps hedgefunds, the evil traders you speak of, creating volatile markets that may cause you to lose money. I myself would lock in the profit.
we are all born into a system that programs us to be reliant on the system. as such Im just a minor cog in the wheel trying to get buy with a comfy life. just as most people do.
do you use money? then you support the evil capitalistic system. do you buy food in a super market from food processors? then you support Big Ag. Lots of our clients are in south and central America. so you prob eat food from a company someplace in the chain that may have used our firm. And if you dont eat processed food , good for you!!!!!!!!
people need to eat and they are fine eating corporate food. custies? so im content pushing buttons on a computer that helps our clients make money, stay in business and feed the world. most people wont have an issue with what I do accept for you. but who can be as noble and good as you so why try? lol
and some of our clients are organic producers.
we dont add a layer of cost to food as we are not middlemen. like it or not, it takes money to produce food. So Im just dealing with reality and as I said, how do we change the system?
so how do we change Big Ag to a more sustainable system. to me it starts with the Demand side and I vote with my dollars buying food from sustainable producers, organic and humane producers. Its what I can do.
If I didnt have a good paying job, Id be spending my money supporting conventional produce which we both agree in not the best system.
have a wonderful night!
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Post by Don Swifty on Dec 21, 2020 15:17:32 GMT -7
Not growing nearly as much food as I used to when I lived on farms and was very active in Permaculture. Kind of hard to do so living in the city, but will be moving back to the country on some land so I'll be getting my hands deep in soil again. I'm hardly whining, and am kind of surprised since you seem to often bring up your distaste for greed, capitalism, flouride, vaccinations, all sorts of stuff that I guess you'd consider venting, not whining. How one regularly brings up the negativity of greed, capitalism, etc. but continues to work in the Big Finance section of Capitalism Inc. is beyond me, but I'd bet you have a way to do so while holding seemingly contrasting views. The irony of the discrepancy is funny to see posted, not just by me, but others who've noticed it as well, even if you don't, or don't want to acknowledge it. How the markets doing today? Making big profits for your firm and their clients, none of whom are investing with any goal in mind other than profit? when you were on tour slinging, was your goal profit? or did you sell everything at cost? did you ever custie anybody? or were slinging to help the world? LOL If so, how did you help the world? by slinging substances? sounds noble!
My goal was to see as many shows as possible while seeing as much of the country and world as possible, but yes, profit was the means to the ends of achieving that goal at the time. I never considered my slinging to help the world, but I've done things that have had a positive impact on my little corner of it - wherever I happened to be. It never involved anything like writing a check to some organization or had anything else to do with money, donating money, or being charitable. More direct action, like EarthFirst!/ELF, actions, working on Permaculture projects in the third world that helped people sustainably improve their food sourcing situation, etc.. Here's the thing and the difference- I'm not the guy on here who's constantly posting about the evils of greed, profit, the system, etc. I have no problem with capitalism in the abstract. I'm not big on large scale, hyper-capitalism, rich get richer, poor get poorer. But I have no problem with people profiting on their labor or buying a six pack (or anything) for $8 and selling them 1x3, 2x5. Or somebody starting a business and hiring a few people so that everyone involved can make a decent living, all while producing something as opposed to merely transferring funds into an investment account so that those in control of the account can increase the value of that portfolio while the investor does nothing to earn that profit (though I'm not saying it's not possible that they earn profit in other ways that does contribute as opposed to merely sitting on their ass and watching the value of their investments grow). I think your questions are trying to paint me out to be a hypocrite; some anti-captialism, give everything away free type who then goes out and gets from show to show by slinging product X for a profit, and if I don't give it away or sell at cost than I'm a hypocrite. But I've never posted as such so your questions really aren't relevant to me. In fact, I'm the guy who's occasionally encouraged certain people here to get their hustle on so they can do they things they want in life, esp. when what they want is a way to live without having to depend on working for The System in order to survive. I would never personally work for the Big Finance division of Hyper Capitalism/The System, but if I did, I wouldn't post about the evils of those who pay me to make profits for people who invest in the markets with the sole goal of making profits. Sure, from time to time everybody thinks the boss is a jerk, or the company they work for is run by a bunch of pinheads. But that's different than blaming The System and Greed for society's problems while working in an industry that is a big part of The System and is all about Greed. Me. I'd find work more fulfilling that didn't make me feel like I was saying 'do what I say, not what I do.' I certainly wouldn't be posting about the evils of greed while my job is all about maximizing profits for investors. Out of curiosity, do you ever speak of all this anti-captialism, 'corporations and the system are evil' kind of stuff with the CEO/Senior Partners/Etc. at your firm, or only outside the workplace? If so, what are their opinions on your attitude? If not, what do suppose their opinions would be, or their reactions to your opinion? Why not have that conversation with them since you seem eager to state your point of view on the subject? ::I didn't read the rest so I took it out of the quote:: |
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Post by lordkundalini on Dec 22, 2020 6:30:12 GMT -7
when you were on tour slinging, was your goal profit? or did you sell everything at cost? did you ever custie anybody? or were slinging to help the world? LOL If so, how did you help the world? by slinging substances? sounds noble!
My goal was to see as many shows as possible while seeing as much of the country and world as possible, but yes, profit was the means to the ends of achieving that goal at the time. I never considered my slinging to help the world, but I've done things that have had a positive impact on my little corner of it - wherever I happened to be. It never involved anything like writing a check to some organization or had anything else to do with money, donating money, or being charitable. More direct action, like EarthFirst!/ELF, actions, working on Permaculture projects in the third world that helped people sustainably improve their food sourcing situation, etc.. Here's the thing and the difference- I'm not the guy on here who's constantly posting about the evils of greed, profit, the system, etc. I have no problem with capitalism in the abstract. I'm not big on large scale, hyper-capitalism, rich get richer, poor get poorer. But I have no problem with people profiting on their labor or buying a six pack (or anything) for $8 and selling them 1x3, 2x5. Or somebody starting a business and hiring a few people so that everyone involved can make a decent living, all while producing something as opposed to merely transferring funds into an investment account so that those in control of the account can increase the value of that portfolio while the investor does nothing to earn that profit (though I'm not saying it's not possible that they earn profit in other ways that does contribute as opposed to merely sitting on their ass and watching the value of their investments grow). I think your questions are trying to paint me out to be a hypocrite; some anti-captialism, give everything away free type who then goes out and gets from show to show by slinging product X for a profit, and if I don't give it away or sell at cost than I'm a hypocrite. But I've never posted as such so your questions really aren't relevant to me. In fact, I'm the guy who's occasionally encouraged certain people here to get their hustle on so they can do they things they want in life, esp. when what they want is a way to live without having to depend on working for The System in order to survive. I would never personally work for the Big Finance division of Hyper Capitalism/The System, but if I did, I wouldn't post about the evils of those who pay me to make profits for people who invest in the markets with the sole goal of making profits. Sure, from time to time everybody thinks the boss is a jerk, or the company they work for is run by a bunch of pinheads. But that's different than blaming The System and Greed for society's problems while working in an industry that is a big part of The System and is all about Greed. Me. I'd find work more fulfilling that didn't make me feel like I was saying 'do what I say, not what I do.' I certainly wouldn't be posting about the evils of greed while my job is all about maximizing profits for investors. Out of curiosity, do you ever speak of all this anti-captialism, 'corporations and the system are evil' kind of stuff with the CEO/Senior Partners/Etc. at your firm, or only outside the workplace? If so, what are their opinions on your attitude? If not, what do suppose their opinions would be, or their reactions to your opinion? Why not have that conversation with them since you seem eager to state your point of view on the subject? ::I didn't read the rest so I took it out of the quote:: |
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Post by lordkundalini on Dec 22, 2020 6:42:47 GMT -7
when you were on tour slinging, was your goal profit? or did you sell everything at cost? did you ever custie anybody? or were slinging to help the world? LOL If so, how did you help the world? by slinging substances? sounds noble!
My goal was to see as many shows as possible while seeing as much of the country and world as possible, but yes, profit was the means to the ends of achieving that goal at the time. I never considered my slinging to help the world, but I've done things that have had a positive impact on my little corner of it - wherever I happened to be. It never involved anything like writing a check to some organization or had anything else to do with money, donating money, or being charitable. More direct action, like EarthFirst!/ELF, actions, working on Permaculture projects in the third world that helped people sustainably improve their food sourcing situation, etc.. Here's the thing and the difference- I'm not the guy on here who's constantly posting about the evils of greed, profit, the system, etc. I have no problem with capitalism in the abstract. I'm not big on large scale, hyper-capitalism, rich get richer, poor get poorer. But I have no problem with people profiting on their labor or buying a six pack (or anything) for $8 and selling them 1x3, 2x5. Or somebody starting a business and hiring a few people so that everyone involved can make a decent living, all while producing something as opposed to merely transferring funds into an investment account so that those in control of the account can increase the value of that portfolio while the investor does nothing to earn that profit (though I'm not saying it's not possible that they earn profit in other ways that does contribute as opposed to merely sitting on their ass and watching the value of their investments grow). I think your questions are trying to paint me out to be a hypocrite; some anti-captialism, give everything away free type who then goes out and gets from show to show by slinging product X for a profit, and if I don't give it away or sell at cost than I'm a hypocrite. But I've never posted as such so your questions really aren't relevant to me. In fact, I'm the guy who's occasionally encouraged certain people here to get their hustle on so they can do they things they want in life, esp. when what they want is a way to live without having to depend on working for The System in order to survive. I would never personally work for the Big Finance division of Hyper Capitalism/The System, but if I did, I wouldn't post about the evils of those who pay me to make profits for people who invest in the markets with the sole goal of making profits. Sure, from time to time everybody thinks the boss is a jerk, or the company they work for is run by a bunch of pinheads. But that's different than blaming The System and Greed for society's problems while working in an industry that is a big part of The System and is all about Greed. Me. I'd find work more fulfilling that didn't make me feel like I was saying 'do what I say, not what I do.' I certainly wouldn't be posting about the evils of greed while my job is all about maximizing profits for investors. Out of curiosity, do you ever speak of all this anti-captialism, 'corporations and the system are evil' kind of stuff with the CEO/Senior Partners/Etc. at your firm, or only outside the workplace? If so, what are their opinions on your attitude? If not, what do suppose their opinions would be, or their reactions to your opinion? Why not have that conversation with them since you seem eager to state your point of view on the subject? ::I didn't read the rest so I took it out of the quote:: so you went out and profited from people, just like a wall street shark, extracted what you could from others to support the life you wanted. just like everyone else and now you sit in judgement of others. lol though. selling powerful illicit drugs to people you dont know, dont know if they can handle them or not for profit. hmmmmmm
lots of bunk drugs and predators on tour. so clearly the whole scene must of been full of ethically challenged and morally bankrupt people. using Swifty logic. I agree, we live in a system built on greed. Greed is the issue. some more then others.. some people bad, some good, all just trying to get by. I myself an just a clerk trying to get by, like Bob Cratchett. Is Bob Cratchet morally bankrupt and ethically challenged cause he works for Scrooge? I dont think he is. Is the gas station attendant reflective of the evils of Big Oil? prob not. just another guy trying to get buy in a corrupt system.
I love the people I work for, they treat us fair, go out of there way to treat the client fare, we eat errors all the time. We visit our clients and use the team approach to help them achieve their goals. Being in the trading pits, Ive seen greedy assholes. I count myself lucky that I landed with good people.
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Post by lordkundalini on Dec 22, 2020 6:45:30 GMT -7
oh and my job is not about maximizing profit, its about smoothing out risk curves which entail limiting profit and limiting loss. duh!!!!!!!!!
you still have no clue what hedging is. its okay to be ignorant, but it just makes you look like a fool pretending to acutally know what I do when you dont.
lol
have a nice day. .talk to you again in a few years.
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Post by lordkundalini on Dec 22, 2020 13:06:56 GMT -7
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Post by Don Swifty on Dec 23, 2020 6:16:49 GMT -7
Ah, I think I see what you're trying to do. Sure, you're accusing me of being judgemental, but don't you see how judgemental you are everytime you post about greed, capitalism, Big Ag, Big Pharma, flouride, etc? The old dish it out but can't take it? Here's the difference between the hypothetical situation you're painting and the actual situation I'm describing.
Let's assume I did all that stuff you say. "selling powerful illicit drugs to people you dont know...... using Swifty logic."
Your hypothetical situation would be valid if in addition to doing all of that (which obviously I never did) I was simultaneously making posts here condeming all of those actions. But I don't. I've never worked in an industry where I felt it's overall goals went against my personal values. I haven't worked on tour in over a decade, but I never felt it was as evil as you describe, even if there certainly are shady elements within tour from big promoters down to lot rats selling bunk. I've never made multiple posts about the evils of tour/dr00gs. If I did, I wouldn't have been a part of it. I wouldn't participate in something where the goal is to maximize profits for those who I was working for and those who invest with them, and if I did, so what? As long as I wasn't simoltaneously posting about the evils of all that I'd be consistent; my actions would match my words and not contradict them. I never really worked for anyone but myself while on tour, but if I took an occasional job with a food vendor let's say, I wouldn't post about the evils of food vendors while doing so. If you feel that way about tour enough to use it as an example, I wonder why you're posting on a dr00g band forum.
My most recent gig was/is(?) as a photographer where my clients are hotels and restaurants in the international tourism industry. I don't feel they're part of the greed based System that you so often describe where the idea is maximize profit for the rich while controlling the poor. If you do, I guess you could go ahead and make up another nasty sounding hypothetical about it, but again, the difference would be that I don't regularly post about the evils of the International Tourism industry while simultaneously continuing to work within it. If you were to really feel it was that bad then I guess you shouldn't be taking any more trips as an international tourist or ever using a camera again.
The main point being that I don't condemn the industries I've worked in while continuing to work in them. I'm consistent in matching my words and actions to my personal beliefs. I'm not putting down greed, profit, Big Ag, etc., while working for a firm in an industry that is all about maximizing profit for the investor class, and last I checked The Commodities Market works with/alongside/trades in the products of Big Ag.
I'm just curious why a guy like you who posts negatively about things such as greed, profit, capitalism, etc., doesn't make his walk match his talk. Why not take your skills, talents, abilities and transfer/apply them to something more in line with your personal values? That would be consistent. Why not work for a non-profit that's doing good in the world instead of working for people whose goal is to ultimately maximize profits for their investors in the rich investor class? Why not be part of the solution to the problems you describe instead of continuing to work in Big Finance and The System which you feel is the problem, strongly enough to regularly post negatively about them?
Is it that the money's too good to walk away from it? Is it knowing that someone else would just do the job and get the money, so why negatively impact your money situation if doing so isn't really going to put a dent in The System? Is it just easier to hold those personal beliefs while living in a way that contradicts those beliefs and writing negatively about the hand that feeds you (of the body you're a part of) somehow seems like pennance?
Quit your job, put your skills to better use that are more aligned with your personal values, or don't. But don't be surprised when people who can see through the obvious excuses of trying to make what you do for a living not be part of the things you regularly condemn in your posts notice that discrepancy and bring it up from time to time - which has been happening long before I started posting here and was just a lurker in the mid-2000's. It's the price one pays for living a life with such a big contradiction between their words and actions.
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Post by lordkundalini on Dec 23, 2020 6:27:53 GMT -7
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Post by lordkundalini on Dec 23, 2020 13:27:38 GMT -7
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Post by lordkundalini on Dec 24, 2020 8:03:49 GMT -7
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Post by lordkundalini on Jan 4, 2021 13:07:23 GMT -7
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Post by lordkundalini on Jan 4, 2021 14:34:05 GMT -7
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Post by lordkundalini on Jan 8, 2021 8:24:19 GMT -7
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Post by lordkundalini on Jan 11, 2021 12:34:31 GMT -7
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Post by lordkundalini on Jan 12, 2021 7:03:41 GMT -7
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Post by lordkundalini on Jan 13, 2021 13:05:49 GMT -7
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Post by bear on Jan 15, 2021 5:52:20 GMT -7
'Moreover, despite a number of reports, MacPherson is not convinced the Hum has ever been recorded, even by sophisticated audio equipment. And finally, he points out, most hypothesised acoustic sources don’t fit with the sudden onset of reports in the late 60s and early 70s, discovered by Deming.
Thus he believes there is no external, physical source. Rather, he argues it involves a neurological element: “This is caused by something internal – some internally generated perception of sound. But we need to know the trigger and what kind of exposures might be necessary. We also need to know other things the population might have in common that could help explain this.”'
Gotta love clickbait journalism. What is this mysterious global hum? It's not a hum and it's not global!
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Post by lordkundalini on Jan 15, 2021 6:24:08 GMT -7
'Moreover, despite a number of reports, MacPherson is not convinced the Hum has ever been recorded, even by sophisticated audio equipment. And finally, he points out, most hypothesised acoustic sources don’t fit with the sudden onset of reports in the late 60s and early 70s, discovered by Deming. Thus he believes there is no external, physical source. Rather, he argues it involves a neurological element: “This is caused by something internal – some internally generated perception of sound. But we need to know the trigger and what kind of exposures might be necessary. We also need to know other things the population might have in common that could help explain this.”' Gotta love clickbait journalism. What is this mysterious global hum? It's not a hum and it's not global! certainly from your viewpoint.
but not from the viewpoint of those experiencing it. the 4% or so. thats a lot of people.
MacPherson dont really know. Has NO proof. He has a belief and if you choose to go along with his belief, well then you are both believers in it not happening. fair enough.
He certainly did not prove there is no hum or its not global at all.
rationalizing other explanations and saying what it could be is not proof of anything.
its like seeing a UFO, you have to experience and those who dont always want to explain it away. they need to prove it away which they cant.
are all UFOs swamp gas and weather balloons?
the thing is what if its from a source current science cannot measure. internally you cant rule that out, especially with a theory.
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Post by lordkundalini on Jan 15, 2021 6:25:23 GMT -7
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Post by bear on Jan 15, 2021 6:30:16 GMT -7
he has no proof because there is no proof. how is this escaping you? its not from an measurable external source. there is no substantive or tangible evidence of a hum. there is no substantive or tangible evidence that it is global. there is no valid support for the theory of a global hum.
shouldnt you be at the state capital trying to prove election fraud with no evidence right now?
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