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Post by hokiejoe on Jan 18, 2024 5:28:31 GMT -7
Also Team Keith.
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Post by deadphishbiscuits on Jan 18, 2024 5:36:27 GMT -7
Team pigpen here
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Post by hokiejoe on Jan 18, 2024 5:55:12 GMT -7
Pig was great with the vocals, but the worst keyboard player by a mile. Probably not a lot of team Tom or Team Vince people out there.
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Post by Not your moms 🌮 on Jan 18, 2024 6:05:10 GMT -7
I'm split between team Keith and team Brent. Unfortunately both come with some undesirable vocals.
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Post by Don Swifty on Jan 18, 2024 6:15:42 GMT -7
I thought Keith only did vocals of any kind on his one song that was only played live maybe a couple few times.
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Post by deadphishbiscuits on Jan 18, 2024 6:20:14 GMT -7
Pig was great with the vocals, but the worst keyboard player by a mile. Probably not a lot of team Tom or Team Vince people out there. Eww Team Vince I like Pigpen and his overall RAWness For me goes Pig Brent/Keith (this could change at any moment) Bruce Tom Vince |
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Post by flyinghellphish on Jan 18, 2024 6:21:36 GMT -7
brent could sing really well too that puts him over the top.
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Post by hokiejoe on Jan 18, 2024 6:24:33 GMT -7
Brent had a great voice, but it was hit or miss for me depending on the song. He reminds me of Warren, when he sings, there is no mistaking who is singing.
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Post by ancientchad on Jan 18, 2024 6:29:33 GMT -7
Most Brent tunes were bathroom breaks but some were epic.
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Post by Don Swifty on Jan 18, 2024 7:11:14 GMT -7
Pig wasn't a bad organ player for what he did, just had a very limited range of what he could do with it.
Brent technically had a good voice, but it was a little too Doobie Bros. for my taste.
Vince gets unfairly slagged. The band held tryouts, they wanted someone who could also contribute backing vocals (sorry, T. Lavitz), and they hired Vince. I wasn't a fan of his 'sounds,' but his playing was alright. Dude got lucky. From what I know he was down on his luck, down and out, and along comes a job offer when the Dead were in their peak commercial draw period and he the job wasn't just as a hired gun tour musician, but as a full member of the band. Everybody hates on Vince, but Jerry was the weak link at the time. I like that he talked the band into bringing back some long shelved songs - too bad they were shitty revivals. All that said, I'd still put him at the bottom of the list.
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Post by Zeewada on Jan 18, 2024 7:15:16 GMT -7
Brents Love to make music was unmatched. He was all in.
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Post by autophil74 on Jan 18, 2024 7:44:07 GMT -7
I vote Brent
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Post by floyd on Jan 18, 2024 8:02:26 GMT -7
That sheer look of joy on Brent's face at the beginning when he realizes they're bring it 'round to "Blow Away": "Yeah? Okay, then ... let's do this."
Talking just keys? Pre-hiatus Keith for me. But all-around moments of light that would even get Jerry to do a little shuffle and smile? Brent could dole 'em out when he was on.
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Post by lerner on Jan 18, 2024 8:04:02 GMT -7
^agreeed...
always have been a brent fan... buuuuuuut some brent tunes are bathroom worthy...
keith was legit af.
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Post by GBK2point0 on Jan 18, 2024 8:34:46 GMT -7
TIL Lowell George and John Kahn produced the album Shakedown Street. I had no idea. Am I the only one that made it this far not knowing this? I got on a bunny trail after seeing the young Harvey Weinstein photo with Kieth and Donna, and started looking up stuff about Keith and the split from the Dead and stumbled on that jem. Anyway….. carry on. What new and/or interesting stuff did you learn about the Keith/Donna/Dead split? Curious myself. I'd read Keith's musical laziness played a major factor - the well known story about Jerry not being happy that Keith was parroting his licks. And the problems within the marriage - something about Donna intentionally smashing her BMW into Keith's car at Club Front one day. Everybody wanted a change and so at some band meeting when it finally came up all were for the change. Not sure if Bobby fucking Donna at some point had any effect or not - I'd guess very minor at best since Bob's gonna Bob and everyone knows that. I'd be interesting in knowing any other stories/details. I know there's a lot of love for Brent, but imo Keith was the best keyboard player they ever had - at least in the pre-retirement years. Don't know what happened when they came out of retirement, but by then he was just playing the keyboard parts and barely making any kind of contribution at all. Weren't Keith and Donna notorious for getting really twisted and trashing hotel rooms and also having major fights? They must have been HUGE Fleetwood Mac fans |
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Post by GBK2point0 on Jan 18, 2024 8:35:45 GMT -7
Team Brent all the way.
Also I know he wasn't technically a full time member but Hornsby is really up there for me!
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Post by Don Swifty on Jan 18, 2024 8:56:33 GMT -7
One thing I don't like about Brent was that tinkly sound he had on everything but the organ. Also not a fan of Bobby's 80's super treble guitar tone either where I loved his tone from the early 70's. Probably more to do with the trends of the 80's and the kind of tones either favored or more because that's what manufacturers were making their keyboards sound like at the time. Cold 80's nascent stage digital vs warm 70's analog. Every band who started in the 60's or 70's suffered because of it whereas the late 70's New Wave and 80's bands made better use of it or it just sounded more of their time. I can't think of any 60s/70s bands where I thought they sounded better in the 80's - Stones, Who, Zeppelin solo stuff, Floyd, etc. But since the Dead were all going in that 80's direction Brent was the right guy for them at the time. I can't picture Keith being in 80's Dead and had he lasted longer the 90's decline might not be so pronounced.
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Post by GBK2point0 on Jan 18, 2024 9:01:41 GMT -7
Bobby in a Madonna shirt is iconic Dead!
see also: high leg kick in short shorts
that is some EPIC Dead
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Post by frododoknobo on Jan 18, 2024 10:08:45 GMT -7
I knew I had read something about Lowell recently and dug it up. This was tagged onto the end of a review of Time Loves a Hero on discogs. According to Fred Tackett, “We were driving down the New Jersey Turnpike in this bus and we stopped at this pizza joint off the highway. Everybody in the band shared a cheese pizza, but Lowell bought a large pizza with everything on it, carried it to the back of the bus and he ate the entire pizza by himself. He died two or three days later. So, when people ask me, “What really killed Lowell?” I say, “It was a pizza on the New Jersey Turnpike.” www.discogs.com/release/7545248-Little-Feat-Time-Loves-A-HeroAside from the numerous references to cakaine in Little Feat songs, check out the title of his solo album. Very telling…. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanks,_I%27ll_Eat_It_Here |
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Post by frododoknobo on Jan 18, 2024 10:11:57 GMT -7
Same. I love Brent too, but I would take Keith. |
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