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Post by lordkundalini on Sept 1, 2017 10:55:06 GMT -7
how else to you communicate that which words cannot describe?
symbols, mantras, sigils ect
asked and answered.
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Post by bear on Sept 1, 2017 10:55:21 GMT -7
I'm not at a keyboard yet. giant hint
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Post by lordkundalini on Sept 1, 2017 10:56:32 GMT -7
thats more a small hint i feel
thats a joke son
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Post by lordkundalini on Sept 1, 2017 11:01:44 GMT -7
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Post by lordkundalini on Sept 1, 2017 11:29:32 GMT -7
i think mantras, mandalas, symbols, sigils ect are more about communicating with the more sublime unconscious aspect of the mind.
words are of the thinking egoic portion of our being... and of course as Human points out, we dont have words that really are powerful enough to describe the construct of reality.
but the ego, thinking mind will die but spirit, awareness ect will not, if it exists and i operate on the principle that it does.
that is the part of my being i want to communicate with, affect, ect the eternal.
as such thats why i think mantras ect were developed as tools
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2017 13:42:16 GMT -7
Use of the vowel sounds at its most basic is a way to calm the mind and open awareness....Likewise, you could also use a basic sit/stillness meditation and use the breath...
The vibration of the vowel sounds help focus the mind inward toward stillness, and thus, wider awareness. Then 'listening' comes. As Lork posted, I believe, every vowel has a meaning...A-U-M-and then Silence...but knowing the meaning is not necessary to get the benefit of the calming effect on the mind and central nervous system..
People into that type of meditation use the meanings of the letters for contemplation on the tenets of say, a certain type of Yoga etc..or to focus on aspects of consciousness...waking, dreaming, and deep sleep. or ...the gross, subtle, and causal planes...The idea is that eventually practice will lead to a greater understanding of the Whole...Oneness within oneself and the Universe.
All language is metaphor.
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Post by salmon401 on Sept 1, 2017 19:04:40 GMT -7
"All language is metaphor."
.....so the word metaphor is a metaphor?
Twist on that one for awhile with your vowel sounds.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2017 19:22:05 GMT -7
In linguistics, the idea that language originated from some kind of mystical resonance is called the Ding-Dong Theory..
I shit u not
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2017 4:39:05 GMT -7
Yeah..I get it..both of you..lol.
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Post by bear on Sept 15, 2017 14:17:07 GMT -7
Am I not explaining this clearly enough? Energy and vibration exist outside of linguistics and conceptualizing them does not require constructs of language. Life is beyond words who said the construct of language was necessary besides you? i hope your not projecting ignorance of this on me and then calling me out for it. this is the first time you explained your point... but what you are missing is that specific vibration packages have been turned into words. they are not mutually exclusive are they? why cant we base a language on the very code of the universe.. seems to me those would be some powerful words worth repeating and repeating, like a mantra hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm we are based in this material plane so it only makes sense that humans need a reference point to understand that which words cannot really describe hence the use of sigils, symbols, mantras ect see what im saying? and i agree with you.. so not sure why you are getting all up in arms about it. its like you are trying to find disagreement in agreement. Its ironic that i am accused of projections and yet you are projecting your human ideas onto the nature of the universe assuming that it has a "code" or "language". Is not the nature of the universe chaos and disorder? Is harmony a certainty or a coincidence?
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Post by bear on Sept 15, 2017 14:25:34 GMT -7
words are of the thinking egoic portion of our being... and of course as Human points out, we dont have words that really are powerful enough to describe the construct of reality. good summary but I would expand on that by saying that it's not the inability of words so much as it is the constraints of time and understanding. we make certain trade offs knowing that we as individuals have varying degrees of limited capacities and are constantly leveraging energy to maintain our lives as needs arise. that and most people are content with "just good enough" and more often should reach out to touch the face of god.
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Post by lordkundalini on Sept 18, 2017 6:22:46 GMT -7
words are of the thinking egoic portion of our being... and of course as Human points out, we dont have words that really are powerful enough to describe the construct of reality. good summary but I would expand on that by saying that it's not the inability of words so much as it is the constraints of time and understanding. we make certain trade offs knowing that we as individuals have varying degrees of limited capacities and are constantly leveraging energy to maintain our lives as needs arise. that and most people are content with "just good enough" and more often should reach out to touch the face of god. for sure.. if say the nature of the universe is indeed some sublime paradox, existing while not existing, God/no-God ect. then it would follow that we have no words if we cant even get a handle on the concept. existence on many different levels while not really existing at all Could be that boulder you are staring at on a hike is actually a powerful 7th dimensional being whose is reality is more based in the higher realms with the rock as a base in the physical. i spend lots of time just thinking things like this, seeing where the stream of thought leads. in the end it all comes down to view point, which is why duality is illusionairy. sure it could be this or that but in the end from a specific view point you get a specific view, im a big fan of infinity and the multi-worlds, multiverse theories in Quantum physics. reality's building on realities in an ever expanding yet all occurring at once so for me there will never be a good enough, just another level to attain, to understand and somehow it all loops back together in the Ouroboros thats why symbols i feel are more powerful then words. it about understanding on a more sublime level, the unconscious, the connection to the divine i speak to higher powers everyday and sometimes they answer. oftentimes its scary but more and more ive become comfortable communicating with my higher self. its time for me to stop fucking around and become focused on why i am here---ascension,, the understanding that my awareness has no start, no end- and that im currently in a perception of a dense material world to learn how to no longer exist in a dense material world reality is so much fun!!!! its all about necessity and view point
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Post by lovejahlive on Sept 18, 2017 7:37:04 GMT -7
when you're ready for the truth, ît will find YOU.
#wooklifecoach
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 7:41:30 GMT -7
Truth?
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Post by lovejahlive on Sept 18, 2017 7:45:35 GMT -7
there are no aliens
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Post by lordkundalini on Sept 18, 2017 7:50:00 GMT -7
truth is a tricky word.. it requires a viewpoint and suggests that the nature of reality is duality, as if their can be truth and non-truth.
thats the nature of a label in the material realm.. it works from only certain viewpoints
i do agree that the "truth" you need in the now you find yourself in will be offered to you..
but in the end change is the one thing you can count on.
im currently really hard wiring the concept that its always my choice on how i react.. i choose to color it "bad" or "good" which in the end dont really matter.
when in reality its more about the lesson then the response to the lesson
exciting times we live in for sure!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 7:50:15 GMT -7
What is truth man?
What is time?..
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Post by lordkundalini on Sept 18, 2017 7:51:37 GMT -7
just an eternal awareness, perhaps insane and alone, perhaps blissful, hence the division into the matrix or most likely something that has to be not known
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Post by lordkundalini on Sept 18, 2017 7:56:12 GMT -7
time is such an interesting mechanism. seems its more a coordinate system for awareness then a prison. is it a gift or is it a villian?
its needed if you live inside of awareness bu not so much when you realize you are awareness and nothing more. then it becomes a joke
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 15:43:38 GMT -7
Time is a man-made construct....Good for use on the physical plane, but not much else...no real meaning...a tool only. Existence is infinite and eternal. Thus my sig: Time is Now.
IMO...
....of course...lol.
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