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Post by lerner on Feb 24, 2022 8:59:59 GMT -7
my question is, what the fuck are santions going to do when russia is in bed with china..?
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Post by Zeewada on Feb 24, 2022 9:05:02 GMT -7
"fathom how ignorant someone has to be to mention trump"
So Hokie and Tree are ignorant since they were the first to bring Trumpster up in the thread? Careful what you say Gergles.
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Post by Zeewada on Feb 24, 2022 9:06:17 GMT -7
The only Russians Ive ever cared for is Pavel Datsyuk and Ovie.
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Post by SolarGarlic 🧀 on Feb 24, 2022 9:24:21 GMT -7
"fathom how ignorant someone has to be to mention trump" So Hokie and Tree are ignorant since they were the first to bring Trumpster up in the thread? Careful what you say Gergles. To be fair, we were commenting on vibyls post regarding republican support. You called Biden weak and said it wouldn’t have happened under Trump. Big difference
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Post by Zeewada on Feb 24, 2022 9:32:17 GMT -7
Point taken. I still believe that to be true. But Greg did say to be bringing up Trump.
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Post by Zeewada on Feb 24, 2022 9:33:27 GMT -7
Excuse me, "mention" Trump
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Post by higs on Feb 24, 2022 9:39:10 GMT -7
vibes to gerg fam. war sucks. and to be honest, not sure why the US would ever be involved in this war, but here we are... Not to get all history lesson here but the US' past isolationism led (in some part) to WW2. We've got the biggest and most funded armed forces, so if we don't flex the ones who can't play nice with their neighbors don't have much deterrent. I don't particularly like this but it is a necessary part of keeping some sense of global order Also a reasonable time to point out that Trump spent the entirety of his term undermining and destabilizing NATO. If NATO and the West are seen as weak, it is certainly a result of Trump’s efforts to pull us out of NATO. Of course Putin would seize on that. The idea that Trump did anything but weaken our standing in NATO, Europe and around the world is simply stupid. You can listen to your cable news and feel all you want about it but it's just fucking dumb and uninformed.
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Post by higs on Feb 24, 2022 9:42:36 GMT -7
vibes to gerg fam. war sucks. and to be honest, not sure why the US would ever be involved in this war, but here we are... Not to get all history lesson here but the US' past isolationism led (in some part) to WW2. We've got the biggest and most funded armed forces, so if we don't flex the ones who can't play nice with their neighbors don't have much deterrent. I don't particularly like this but it is a necessary part of keeping some sense of global order Cont... Which goes back to our own security. A strong, secure NATO makes it much less likely we get drug into something like this. We spent the past four years weakening that security and now we get to deal with the fallout. Dumb.
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Post by chronicircle on Feb 24, 2022 9:42:47 GMT -7
besides trump and his cronies who is actually supporting russia's actions? link?
maybe its hidden in the news cycle or not in my feeds, but it seems most everyone i know is opposed to US action in this conflict, even conservative leaning people.
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Post by Zeewada on Feb 24, 2022 9:44:47 GMT -7
So this is once again about Oil and a pipeline. I thought Putin road horses.
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Post by SolarGarlic 🧀 on Feb 24, 2022 9:45:00 GMT -7
China
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Post by SolarGarlic 🧀 on Feb 24, 2022 9:47:41 GMT -7
China hasn’t come out in support but they haven’t denounced it.
Taiwan is prob next.
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Post by higs on Feb 24, 2022 9:47:45 GMT -7
I love how conservatives move the goal posts when presented with facts and thoughtful discourse.
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Post by chronicircle on Feb 24, 2022 9:49:06 GMT -7
China hasn’t come out in support but they haven’t denounced it. Taiwan is prob next. so commies supporting commies? huh, i guess maybe my post was a little myopic and not thinking big picture.
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Post by higs on Feb 24, 2022 9:51:15 GMT -7
Everyone, conservatives, liberals, Republicans, Democrats, should voice their disapproval in Trump’s support of Russia.
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Post by dbg465285 on Feb 24, 2022 9:54:15 GMT -7
my question is, what the fuck are santions going to do when russia is in bed with china..? Sanitate GHINA
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Post by higs on Feb 24, 2022 9:56:23 GMT -7
Sadly, I just keep hearing folks support the chump. Sorry yall got conned. He's really good at it. He's been doing it for a long time.
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Post by badgerboy on Feb 24, 2022 10:09:14 GMT -7
Trump would have let Russia do anything. Worst president ever. Weak pos.
Makes Biden look strong which is kind of fucked yo because he seems pretty awful
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Post by waldowally on Feb 24, 2022 10:13:04 GMT -7
Biden speaking in 15 mins
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Post by waldowally on Feb 24, 2022 10:13:20 GMT -7
If China pops off on Taiwan this is WW3
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