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Post by bear on Oct 9, 2021 11:52:43 GMT -7
Make sure to mark the position before you move it because some of those are to optimize for the specific transistors in the circuit based on their unique measurements, as opposed to a sag control for the dying battery sound like on a modded fuzz face.
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Post by higs on Oct 9, 2021 11:55:01 GMT -7
Make sure to mark the position before you move it because some of those are to optimize for the specific transistors in the circuit based on their unique measurements, as opposed to a sag control for the dying battery sound like on a modded fuzz face. I never knew it was even there and it sounds great anyway. Maybe I just leave it be for now. I want to open up more and see what's in them and to check for more batteries. |
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Post by higs on Oct 9, 2021 11:56:51 GMT -7
The pharoahs, algal bloom, the black sheep. What else? I should compare the pizzas again.
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Post by higs on Oct 9, 2021 12:08:51 GMT -7
Good call. I'm not going to touch it.  |
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Post by bear on Oct 9, 2021 12:18:16 GMT -7
so uh can i come over
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Post by higs on Oct 9, 2021 12:53:26 GMT -7
Lady was watching me last night and said that when I found the trim pot I lit up like christmas and it would have made a great video. Maybe I do some demos.
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Post by flyinghellphish on Oct 9, 2021 14:14:26 GMT -7
can ah...i come over too.
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Post by higs on Oct 9, 2021 14:17:16 GMT -7
I wish all you guys could.
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Post by higs on Oct 9, 2021 16:41:49 GMT -7
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Post by EllisD on Oct 10, 2021 6:47:03 GMT -7
Why would some of those pedals have a 9v battery in them? Dont they still need to be hooked up to a 9v power supply?
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Post by bear on Oct 10, 2021 7:11:17 GMT -7
Why would some of those pedals have a 9v battery in them? Dont they still need to be hooked up to a 9v power supply? nah you can use batteries and not need the wall power, but the battery is linked to the input jack so it will continue to drain the voltage when there is an instrument cable plugged in. Not ideal for pedal boards where everything stays hooked up, |
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Post by bear on Oct 10, 2021 8:41:57 GMT -7
The only real advantage to using a 9v battery instead of a power supply is when you have polarization differences such as gear with center positive power (instead of the usual center negative Boss style jacks) or to isolate a circuit that gets noisy when the power jacks are shared. Some vintage phase pedals and other modulation might not have the best shielding for the part of the circuit that controls the timing, so occasionally you could get one that bleeds into the power and could make an audible ticking sound even when the unit is switched off. 70s gear is a minefield of non-standard construction techniques. Also some fuzz pedals will be quietest with a carbon zinc 9v battery instead of the usual alkaline ones.
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Post by higs on Oct 10, 2021 9:04:58 GMT -7
I read a bunch of stuff on analogman's site and he seems to recommend a battery for some of his pedals. Something about resistance or something. That was for his fuzz face clones, the sun faces.
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Post by higs on Oct 10, 2021 9:20:12 GMT -7
From analogman... www.analogman.com/fuzzface.htm"Power Supply Problems These pedals do not have a power jack as standard, as using a power supply can be tricky with a vintage fuzz. The germanium versions are reverse polarity, so sharing a non-isolated power source with a normal polarity pedal will blow out the power supply. It blows because the normal pedal's negative ground flows through the patch cord shield to the positive ground of the fuzz, shorting out the power supply. Here is an article about the problems of using power jacks on reverse polarity pedals from Andreas in Sweden. Using a single power cable from the Voodoo Lab or other isolated power supplies is safe though. If you get a power jack but use the internal battery, there are no problems or compromises at all. A Sun Face with a power jack will still come with a battery and work the same with a battery. If you might use a power supply or TheGigRig Virtual Battery, it's much better to get the power jack than to connect to the battery clip by filing a notch in the bottom plate. Just make sure to use ISOLATED POWER (which is what the Virtual battery does if you have a non-isolated power supply). We do not require using a reverse polarity plug on any of our pedals. Use normal center negative boss type power supply wiring, even if it's a germanium sunface. This does NOT mean you can share power with another pedal though. Sharing power on a silicon sunface is not a problem as it uses negative ground. But we still recommend isolated power on ALL pedals, especially digital ones. Using a power supply may add AC hum noise, and can affect the tone, as the best sound is obtained by using an old style non-alkaline battery. I get these two for a dollar at the DOLLAR STORES. I like the Eveready 1222 "black cat", Maxell, or Panasonics. An Alkaline battery will sound a bit dull in a germanium fuzzface, it can lose some character (you can hear the difference in a sound sample above). It's not just the voltage that makes batteries and power supplies sound different. It's the resistance, inductance, and capacitance in the battery, which is part of the circuit in a fuzzface. A power supply can also cause oscillation (squealing) on some high gain sunfaces. TheGigRig virtual battery should solve oscillation problems, along with isolating the power so you can use any power supply with our positive ground pedals. The VBAT also solves ground loop problems which occur when you use a daisy chain or the same power with more than one pedal. We now offer the Virtual Battery as an accessory and sunface option on our shopping website. Here is more info on the GigRig Virtual Battery" |
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Post by bear on Oct 10, 2021 9:53:56 GMT -7
The only real advantage to using a 9v battery instead of a power supply is when you have polarization differences such as gear with center positive power (instead of the usual center negative Boss style jacks) or to isolate a circuit that gets noisy when the power jacks are shared. Some vintage phase pedals and other modulation might not have the best shielding for the part of the circuit that controls the timing, so occasionally you could get one that bleeds into the power and could make an audible ticking sound even when the unit is switched off. 70s gear is a minefield of non-standard construction techniques. Also some fuzz pedals will be quietest with a carbon zinc 9v battery instead of the usual alkaline ones. I want to clarify that I mean quietest in an electrical sense, in that it would make the pedal sound better. |
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Post by higs on Oct 10, 2021 9:56:55 GMT -7
He has a solution to the pedal board and battery dilemma by offering an on off fuzz pot options or a toggle switch. Pretty cool.
On/Off Fuzz pot option
When using batteries, you need to unplug the guitar cable from input jack when you are done playing for the day, to disconnect the battery. This can be a pain when using a pedalboard. Our optional ON/OFF FUZZ POT makes it easy to disconnect the battery. Just turn the fuzz knob all the way down and it will CLICK as it disconnects the battery. Then you can leave your pedal hooked up to other pedals all the time. Starting in 2018, the optional on/off fuzz pot has the same nice taper as the normal fuzz pot, as we had some custom made. It is a $15 option on the side jacks model. We offer a mini toggle switch to do the same thing on the top jacks model.
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Post by EllisD on Oct 12, 2021 15:12:53 GMT -7
In the market for a harmonizer.
-Malekko Heavy Industry Polyamorator Harmonizer + Delay
Vs.
-EarthQuaker Devices Data Corrupter Harmonizing Pedal
I'm running a behringer rd6 through a boss gs10 and using the harmonizer in that. I'm getting some really cool stuff going on, so I want to dive deeper into the harmonizer pedals.
Not a commonly used pedal I know, but if any of you guys have a good suggestions for a harmonizer...
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Post by bear on Oct 12, 2021 16:01:18 GMT -7
Eventide H9 is pretty popular but I've never used one
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Post by higs on Oct 12, 2021 17:00:39 GMT -7
I've never used a pedal like that either.
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Post by bear on Oct 12, 2021 18:19:36 GMT -7
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