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Post by SolarGarlic 🧀 on Nov 7, 2024 13:43:02 GMT -7
I did put effort in. I organized a women’s rally in PC. I volunteered, I donated money and anyone who would listen to me I talked to.
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Post by frododoknobo on Nov 7, 2024 13:50:52 GMT -7
So who else won?
Lork, that’s who.
He must be dancing in the sex shed now that RFK Jr is going to get rid of fluoride in the water.
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Post by danimal on Nov 7, 2024 13:55:20 GMT -7
No one won anything. Jesus fucking Christy
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Post by bussit on Nov 7, 2024 14:00:00 GMT -7
I am going to check in on Cenk tho. He must be on fire
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Post by higs on Nov 7, 2024 14:09:36 GMT -7
I would eat all the space after these last couple days. A lot of happy folks at work yesterday. Wanted to scream. I didn’t. I was cool. Quiet, but cool. No one talks politics at work really, so it’s never really a thing. But I probably would have had a smile on and a spring in my step if the outcome was reversed. Still, fuck em all! Yesterday I was like, hey at least they are in good moods and not angry. That shit was getting old. Maybe the next four years won't be that bad. Fucking fucks...
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Post by higs on Nov 7, 2024 14:14:04 GMT -7
I’ll stop thread jacking now tho… Bear would have to look it up in the bylaws to be sure, but I think ten strips/sheets/etc. are the wild cards of jambase - you can play them in any thread (and they'll fit). D⁰ses trump everything except turtles, if I remember correctly.
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Post by higs on Nov 7, 2024 14:17:13 GMT -7
People need to talk to each other and have plans for major social upheaval. Or just let them win. My advice to folks to buy a few guns to have around for emergencies always falls on deaf ears.
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Post by Not your moms 🌮 on Nov 7, 2024 14:20:25 GMT -7
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Post by EddieBlake on Nov 7, 2024 14:26:58 GMT -7
We know you are! Michigan is so RED.
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Post by dirtyrice on Nov 7, 2024 16:33:41 GMT -7
I'm more scanning headlines than reading articles, but what's up with all the major Dems (Obama, Biden, Harris) wishing Trump well when he takes office? Up until he won it was all 'Trump, the fascist, is the greatest existential threat to Democracy since sliced bread.' And now they're acting like he's just your average, run of the mill President-elect who they might have some differences with but are confident that he's got the best interests of the country at heart. Was that all just campaign hyperbole? They trying to stay off his enemies list? Whatever the reason, this folding faster than (fill in your favorite metaphor) is bullshit and completely uninspiring. yknow I wondered the same when all the dem condemned the assassination attempt(s) like Nancy Pelosi sayin “Thank god he was not killed!” like imagine if they said a Kyle Gass comment and then dude gets booted from the D on a live ass tour like wtf no one kicks out of congress for shooting off their mouth. Well except the guy in the wheelchair at the orgy or whatev
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Post by Don Swifty on Nov 7, 2024 16:46:26 GMT -7
Demand more from the politicians on the left. They wanted him because Kamala was offering nothing. Expecting solutions from politicians is wishful thinking. The politicians who are actually on the left don't have the numbers or power to do anything. Demanding more from them is like demanding more blood from a stone that hasn't given you a drop. The politicians most think of as being "left" are really corporate and establishment supported politicians who talk a nice game, and to be fair, do express "leftist" ideals when it comes to supporting the LGBTQ+ community and other things that don't interfere with their big $ donors agendas. But their corporate moderates at best. I wouldn't expect too much from them. And unfortunately there is no leftist alternative beyond a handful of voices. Kamala offered plenty, but voters weren't sure if she could deliver. All she could offer them was promises of doing better with the attached burden of being Biden's #2 and the high prices during his administration. Someone on NPR before the election said that more than half of voters don't believe that she'd do what she said she would, but only says those things to get elected. People wanted Trump because they wanted Trump. They want to go back to his pre-pandemic economy when their paychecks stretched farther, and if that means putting up with all his shit and craziness, so be it. Sorry if you needed Harris to promise you she'd bypass Congress and say 'fuck you to SCOTUS' when they would have ruled against her like they did Biden, but that regardless she'd wipe out all student loan debt on day one with the stroke of a pen. Not saying Trump isn't full of empty promises himself, but apparently people liked the buying power of their paychecks better under Trump, which is something they can point to as an actual memory as opposed to a promise. Did you ever stop to think that the average American who votes is more concerned with the price of housing, food, gas, etc., than they are with making sure that every single person with student debt gets their debt cancelled at taxpayer expense while they already paid off their student loan debt without getting any of it cancelled and now they're racking up credit card debt to put food in their kid's mouths in an economy they feel has left them behind? Maybe they think it'd be unfair that someone who says they made a mistake when they were a young adult gets their mistake and slate wiped clean because they took out loans to go to college and have a good time while they never went to college, are working multiple jobs, and aren't getting promises, or even discussions, to have their debts cancelled as well? Maybe instead of constantly whining because you made a mistake (every does, esp. when young) and signed a contract you now regret and for which you're seeking absolute and complete perfection on this one issue from an administration/candidate/party that has done more than any other (which is really 'none') to address your one big issue/personal mistake by cancelling $$$$$ debt for a lot of people (just not you), try thinking objectively about what's important to the majority of voters and which candidate they felt (rightly or wrongly) better addressed their needs. Instead of blaming the loss on your not getting your personal bad decision debt cancelled and thinking your entire generation was ignored even though you think your generation was somehow the key to winning and fuck anyone over 30 because they're selfish, try a little empathy. You blame everyone for being selfish but you can't see how incredibly selfish you yourself sound because you didn't get what you want. Nobody does. Not when they're young, not when they're old. You think everyone but you has an easy life. You're a white guy in America, and no matter your family's financial history being a white guy in America opens more doors of opportunity than any woman or person of color receives. Give maturity a try.
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Post by Don Swifty on Nov 7, 2024 16:51:48 GMT -7
I'm more scanning headlines than reading articles, but what's up with all the major Dems (Obama, Biden, Harris) wishing Trump well when he takes office? Up until he won it was all 'Trump, the fascist, is the greatest existential threat to Democracy since sliced bread.' And now they're acting like he's just your average, run of the mill President-elect who they might have some differences with but are confident that he's got the best interests of the country at heart. Was that all just campaign hyperbole? They trying to stay off his enemies list? Whatever the reason, this folding faster than (fill in your favorite metaphor) is bullshit and completely uninspiring. yknow I wondered the same when all the dem condemned the assassination attempt(s) like Nancy Pelosi sayin “Thank god he was not killed!” like imagine if they said a Kyle Gass comment and then dude gets booted from the D on a live ass tour like wtf no one kicks out of congress for shooting off their mouth. Well except the guy in the wheelchair at the orgy or whatev Condemning an assassination attempt is one thing, even if the condemnation isn't 100% sincere. But wishing the fascists success over the next four years (with Project 2025, prosecuting their enemies, etc.) doesn't make your base think 'Oh, look how civil and polite our party leaders are.' Not after everything Trump and the GOP have said.
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Post by Don Swifty on Nov 7, 2024 18:25:18 GMT -7
My daughter is 14. Smart as hell. Honor Society, straight A's. 2nd year in model UN. We had a long talk last night. She feels bad for people who voted against their own interests because they are "not educated." A theory she arrived at on her own. I told her if I was young, smart person like her, I'd probably look into living somewhere other than America when she's old enough. Awesome for your daughter. If she's college bound maybe she'd want to look into studying abroad, esp. with the model UN experience. I'm guessing her Spanish is tip-top as well. I haven't read anything but headlines in the last couple of days and don't even want to listen to NPR. One story I did allow myself to click on and read yesterday was about available options for those thinking of leaving the US because of the election results. Lot of opportunities for people who work online, want to start a business, or renovate a house. "Digital nomad visas and Italian villages offer options abroad for those fleeing Trump term" www.rawstory.com/leave-the-united-states/
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Post by Lakai on Nov 7, 2024 20:15:07 GMT -7
I've been the opposite lol, listening to WNYC all day at work. I think i need a break from the news for like 2 months. Trump is so full of shit that there really isnt a point in following any policy or staffing statements he or his cronies make until they're actually in the whitehouse.
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Post by lerner on Nov 7, 2024 21:02:49 GMT -7
skillet pizza, turn it off... we fucked.
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Post by GBK2point0 on Nov 8, 2024 4:40:28 GMT -7
I've been the opposite lol, listening to WNYC all day at work. I think i need a break from the news for like 2 months. Trump is so full of shit that there really isnt a point in following any policy or staffing statements he or his cronies make until they're actually in the whitehouse. Yeah I am taking a break from politics. Getting upset over the outcome isn't going to change anything. We have been here before and came through the other end ok. For now though I'd rather focus on my disappointing football team and disappointing my wife in bed.
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Post by bear on Nov 8, 2024 5:02:03 GMT -7
I've been the opposite lol, listening to WNYC all day at work. I think i need a break from the news for like 2 months. Trump is so full of shit that there really isnt a point in following any policy or staffing statements he or his cronies make until they're actually in the whitehouse. Yeah I am taking a break from politics. Getting upset over the outcome isn't going to change anything. We have been here before and came through the other end ok. For now though I'd rather focus on my disappointing football team and disappointing my wife in bed. I've been on a break for 9 years. If I'm not going to do anything else other than vote then what's the point in broiling myself in anger and despair all the time and making everyone else around me miserable because I can't disengage with media. My wife already has that covered.
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Post by GBK2point0 on Nov 8, 2024 5:08:25 GMT -7
Your wife and my wife should talk. You and I can focus on tasty jams, good food and buttholes
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Post by danimal on Nov 8, 2024 5:54:19 GMT -7
It's funny that you guys think this is just the next four years. This is it. This is America.
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Post by chronicircle on Nov 8, 2024 6:11:13 GMT -7
Yeah I am taking a break from politics. Getting upset over the outcome isn't going to change anything. We have been here before and came through the other end ok. For now though I'd rather focus on my disappointing football team and disappointing my wife in bed. I've been on a break for 9 years. If I'm not going to do anything else other than vote then what's the point in broiling myself in anger and despair all the time and making everyone else around me miserable because I can't disengage with media. My wife already has that covered. i feel like this gets at the crux of why so many people actually do not vote in this country. a lot of people just don't like the divisiveness politics brings, the vitriol, name calling, or they simply don't care. once again over half the nation didn't even vote in the "most important election of our lives".
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