|
|
Post by deadphishbiscuits on Nov 7, 2024 6:42:39 GMT -7
This benefits re enrollment got my mind stressing, they're trying to chsre me an extra 400 this year saying I didn't submit something for a discount
I did submit it, the system just sucks and welp here we are 24hrs before the deadline...
...should just say fuck it and not carry it and just pay a dollar a month on outstanding med bills, pretty sure they can't F ya over on those
|
|
|
|
Post by GBK2point0 on Nov 7, 2024 6:44:34 GMT -7
As catastrophic as this Trump term could be, being hysterical and inviting so much negative energy INTO our life and then expressing it toward folks that both do and don't deserve the feedback will just continue to crumble the folks struggling with this political angst. I see it all around me and really hope that folks can see that this doesn't have to define the scope we view our lives and shouldn't have to shape our family, friend and peer relationships. In the end, we need to make active decisions on how we live our lives and that alone will bring more peace to our world view. I think often the folks that are most loud about political angst use the political conversation as a way to avoid personal action. Idk, I'm sure I'm just insensitive because I can sort of manage regardless and have less to lose personally but I also know hysteria,unchecked angst, and alienating folks around me will not change or help anything or anyone including myself or my loved ones. I will be making a conscious effort to not let the idiots get to me, and more importantly, no longer engage with the asshats on social media. It gets us nowhere. With that being said, I understand why people are upset, I understand their anger, i certainly feel it to. But we teach our children to love, we teach them about the 'golden rule' and we teach them to be upstanding human beings. The only thing we can do is control our surroundings and hope that we surround ourselves with people that will show us the respect that we will show them. I know my wife is angry and i know she feels like nothing makes sense and everything is fucked, but as I've told her a million times, that negative energy is not healthy for our future child nor is it for the children. We have to focus on the positives and continue to be hopeful that things will get better. |
|
|
|
Post by EddieBlake on Nov 7, 2024 7:25:01 GMT -7
My wife has not been ok. She is already INCREDIBLY hormonal. A lot more than she was in her last 2 pregnancies. She's been lashing out more frequently and is a lot more easily annoyed by literally everything. She needs to talk to someone but at this point she is so angry with the world she is ok with just cutting everyone out of her life, especially Trump supporters. Yesterday she told our kids that my parents are stupid for voting for Trump, which they've done in the last 3 elections. I, off course, don't agree with my parents political views, but they are not Qanon nut jobs but they are lifelong republicans and they will continue to support their party, sometimes blindly. I was incredibly angry with her saying that and it started a fight, one of many we have had lately, which has not been resolved and probably won't until I get home from job 2 at like 8 pm tonight. I understand being upset, I understand the anxiety that goes with it, but we try to teach our children good and try to teach them not to hate, and her calling my parents stupid in front of the kids and, in front of them, showing no apology or remorse did not make me happy, especially since Berg is absolutely obsessed with her mom and hangs on to every word she says (impressionable doesn't even begin to cut it, she wants to be her mom in every way). I know Berg will repeat the statement to my parents eventually. I love my wife very much but the one thing I hate about her family, specifically Dad, is that he finds any reason to cut people out of his life and will not talk to them for years, or even decades, for example he has not talked to his sister in almost 25 years other than when his ex died. In the last week or so my wife has started doing the same. She stopped talking to her best friend over something incredibly petty. One of her oldest childhood best friends is a Trump supporter and comes from a family of lifelong republicans and yesterday she started blocking her on all social media and yesterday she was talking about no longer wanting to be around half of my family because of their political affiliation. The thing is, nothing has changed, my family has had the same views in 2016. I just don't know what to do anymore and I don't know what to say. The best I can suggest is to remind her that the hatred and division the people on the right support is their most toxic trait. As hard as it is to want to treat them kindly sometimes, it only encourages them and at the same time lowers us to their level if at the very least we cannot be less hateful than they are. Not the easy solution. But I have learned calling them stupid and racist only makes them more defensive and doesn't result in anything positive. Even if some of them are stupid and racist. I believe most are just confused and fooled. I think they're probably just stupid and racist. There's no point in being civil with people who want to call liberals kid fuckers and view inclusion as a dirty word. They're never going to be better people, they don't have any interest in it. They're only going to get it if they're punished socially for their actions but liberals want to "take the high road". Look where that's gotten us as a society. We're all on the low road now and there's no going back. |
|
|
|
Post by GBK2point0 on Nov 7, 2024 7:31:05 GMT -7
^sorry but I don't think my parents, my brothers and some of my relatives are all 'stupid and racist' and i find it pretty disgusting if you actually view all trump supporters that way. I think misguided could be a good word to use or maybe some people have different priorities or prioritize different issues. We don't all look at the world the same way nor do we have the same backgrounds.
I think, especially in this thread we should not let our hate breed more hate and take the low road. We are all struggling in one way or another, maybe it's time to learn some compassion.
|
|
|
|
Post by Not your moms 🌮 on Nov 7, 2024 7:34:50 GMT -7
The best I can suggest is to remind her that the hatred and division the people on the right support is their most toxic trait. As hard as it is to want to treat them kindly sometimes, it only encourages them and at the same time lowers us to their level if at the very least we cannot be less hateful than they are. Not the easy solution. But I have learned calling them stupid and racist only makes them more defensive and doesn't result in anything positive. Even if some of them are stupid and racist. I believe most are just confused and fooled. I think they're probably just stupid and racist. There's no point in being civil with people who want to call liberals kid fuckers and view inclusion as a dirty word. They're never going to be better people, they don't have any interest in it. They're only going to get it if they're punished socially for their actions but liberals want to "take the high road". Look where that's gotten us as a society. We're all on the low road now and there's no going back. Nobody has ever called me a kid fucker. You occupy a strange bubble sir. |
|
|
|
Post by EddieBlake on Nov 7, 2024 8:06:25 GMT -7
^sorry but I don't think my parents, my brothers and some of my relatives are all 'stupid and racist' and i find it pretty disgusting if you actually view all trump supporters that way. I think misguided could be a good word to use or maybe some people have different priorities or prioritize different issues. We don't all look at the world the same way nor do we have the same backgrounds. I think, especially in this thread we should not let our hate breed more hate and take the low road. We are all struggling in one way or another, maybe it's time to learn some compassion. So when are they expected to show compassion? They voted for Trump 3 times, they clearly are stupid and racist. It's not "just economic", they're aware of what he's saying and they're okay with all of that. They just want to punish people who want unity, they obviously don't want it. What good does continuing to extend the olive branch really do? It's only making things worse, they'll only continue to drag everyone surrounding them down to their level with it. They're not interested in changing. |
|
|
|
Post by EddieBlake on Nov 7, 2024 8:07:16 GMT -7
I think they're probably just stupid and racist. There's no point in being civil with people who want to call liberals kid fuckers and view inclusion as a dirty word. They're never going to be better people, they don't have any interest in it. They're only going to get it if they're punished socially for their actions but liberals want to "take the high road". Look where that's gotten us as a society. We're all on the low road now and there's no going back. Nobody has ever called me a kid fucker. You occupy a strange bubble sir. You're not very online and I live in a pretty contentious area. Lots of pretty strong propaganda. |
|
|
|
Post by GBK2point0 on Nov 7, 2024 8:07:53 GMT -7
good luck out there man, reach out if you're struggling
|
|
|
|
Post by GBK2point0 on Nov 7, 2024 8:10:27 GMT -7
One thing that is very hard for people to grasp is that you can only control you. While you can influence some, most are set in their ways and refuse to listen or step outside of their comfort zones. I would love to influence people, that's why i love what I do, but i'm not naive enough to think I will actually be able to change any of them, without them wanting to have the will power to change themselves.
|
|
|
|
Post by EddieBlake on Nov 7, 2024 8:11:05 GMT -7
How do you square how your parents vote with what it means for your kids?
Genuine question.
|
|
|
|
Post by EddieBlake on Nov 7, 2024 8:12:38 GMT -7
I know I intend to buy my nieces less gifts because their parents/relatives are all Trumpers and should be giving her all they can.
I don't have to anymore, they're not interested in helping others.
|
|
|
|
Post by bear on Nov 7, 2024 8:27:32 GMT -7
How do you square how your parents vote with what it means for your kids? Genuine question. My parents have good intentions but are out of touch with how the economics and social dynamics actually work in practice |
|
|
|
Post by EddieBlake on Nov 7, 2024 8:36:22 GMT -7
How do you square how your parents vote with what it means for your kids? Genuine question. My parents have good intentions but are out of touch with how the economics and social dynamics actually work in practice I think it's just too hard for me to accept that and still be kind to people when that kindness isn't a two way street. It's a quid pro without the quo. |
|
|
|
Post by ferd on Nov 7, 2024 9:43:00 GMT -7
People cast votes the way they do for lots of different reasons
All the propaganda out there doesn't inform anyone, but lots in the general public don't understand that
Painting with a broad brush doesn't always work
|
|
|
|
Post by EddieBlake on Nov 7, 2024 9:50:55 GMT -7
The only way to fix that problem is inform people and they simply don't want that. If you're not going to respond to these people and constantly forgive all the shit they pull then how are you any better than them? How are you making things better if you just stand by while they do the same, ultimately hateful thing over and over again? That's sounds like going backwards to me.
|
|
|
|
Post by ancientchad on Nov 7, 2024 10:35:11 GMT -7
My Brother gave me a new spin on voting for Trump last night. In 2016 and 2020 he said it was purely about money. Last night he said it was about him getting completely fucked in his divorce (he really did - thanks NY) and they way "men are treated, particularly white men, by the left."
Angry, grievances
|
|
|
|
Post by hokiejoe on Nov 7, 2024 10:58:37 GMT -7
^sorry but I don't think my parents, my brothers and some of my relatives are all 'stupid and racist' and i find it pretty disgusting if you actually view all trump supporters that way. I think misguided could be a good word to use or maybe some people have different priorities or prioritize different issues. We don't all look at the world the same way nor do we have the same backgrounds. I think, especially in this thread we should not let our hate breed more hate and take the low road. We are all struggling in one way or another, maybe it's time to learn some compassion. So when are they expected to show compassion? They voted for Trump 3 times, they clearly are stupid and racist. It's not "just economic", they're aware of what he's saying and they're okay with all of that. They just want to punish people who want unity, they obviously don't want it. What good does continuing to extend the olive branch really do? It's only making things worse, they'll only continue to drag everyone surrounding them down to their level with it. They're not interested in changing. I find the comments on this page kind of baffling after the reading through the last several pages. You were so angry that you didn't get what you wanted that you exclaimed why should you vote for Democrats, they didn't do shit for me. You were seemingly willing to overlook the many good things they did for people who weren't you. Can you not understand that some people do have legitimate reasons to vote for Republicans whether it be financial, their stance on abortion or something even smaller but more personal? If someone is very religious and believes with all of their heart that abortion is terrible under all circumstances, and they vote accordingly, does it make them racist because the party that aligns with that one specific view happens to be the one that Trump is leading? |
|
|
|
Post by frododoknobo on Nov 7, 2024 11:02:09 GMT -7
How do you square how your parents vote with what it means for your kids? Genuine question. My parents have good intentions but are out of touch with how the economics and social dynamics actually work in practice Your parents are cocksuckers. Period. Full stop. |
|
|
|
Post by EddieBlake on Nov 7, 2024 11:05:41 GMT -7
So when are they expected to show compassion? They voted for Trump 3 times, they clearly are stupid and racist. It's not "just economic", they're aware of what he's saying and they're okay with all of that. They just want to punish people who want unity, they obviously don't want it. What good does continuing to extend the olive branch really do? It's only making things worse, they'll only continue to drag everyone surrounding them down to their level with it. They're not interested in changing. I find the comments on this page kind of baffling after the reading through the last several pages. You were so angry that you didn't get what you wanted that you exclaimed why should you vote for Democrats, they didn't do shit for me. You were seemingly willing to overlook the many good things they did for people who weren't you. Can you not understand that some people do have legitimate reasons to vote for Republicans whether it be financial, their stance on abortion or something even smaller but more personal? If someone is very religious and believes with all of their heart that abortion is terrible under all circumstances, and they vote accordingly, does it make them racist because the party that aligns with that one specific view happens to be the one that Trump is leading? Racist or ghouls, yeah. If you're that anti-abortion, you're a fucking monster in my book. Who cares if a girl bleeds out and dies as long as she doesn't get an abortion is pretty fucked mindset to have. Yall are basically right wingers, shit |
|
|
|
Post by EddieBlake on Nov 7, 2024 11:06:07 GMT -7
My parents have good intentions but are out of touch with how the economics and social dynamics actually work in practice Your parents are cocksuckers. Period. Full stop. Or just willing to ignore atrocities, yeah. It's not cute. |
|
