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Post by chronicircle on Jan 16, 2020 7:07:20 GMT -7
that really is some sad shit. thanks for the insight wally.
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Post by Don Swifty on Jan 16, 2020 7:49:56 GMT -7
Pretty much what others said; sad story. Reminded me of Brian Jones getting kicked out of his band because Mick and Keith grew tired of him and how his substance abuse effected the band, but then the band had to backtrack from bad-mouthing him to throwing a tribute concert for him after his mysterious death not long after getting the boot.
Thanks for the insight, wally.
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Post by bussit on Jan 16, 2020 13:46:53 GMT -7
They should have just ended yonder when they split with Jeff imo. The rest of the guys could start their own new band. Also there should be no wsp without jb, no moe. without Rob, and no phish without trey.
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Post by Don Swifty on Jan 16, 2020 14:15:03 GMT -7
They should have just ended yonder when they split with Jeff imo. The rest of the guys could start their own new band. Also there should be no wsp without jb, no moe. without Rob, and no phish without trey. I'm going to agree with all but the last part of this. First guy in The Phish to leave or die - the band should call it quits and retire the name. If any of the remaining three want to continue with a replacement player, call it something else. No The Phish without any of the four. But that's just, like, you know, uh, my opinion, man. They can obviously handle a departure however they want.
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Post by lerner on Jan 16, 2020 14:18:09 GMT -7
core four, bro...
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Post by DisinformationGovernanceBoard on Jan 17, 2020 10:22:26 GMT -7
Interesting their incorporating Jeff tunes into their sets now that he's gone. Idk...the whole thing is a mess. Not syre I care either way at this point. Im still sad to think about the state of mind jeff was in the night he decided to take his own life... He had life, kids, and a hope of a better tomorrow. The whole thing sucks!
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Post by waldowally on Jan 17, 2020 13:16:35 GMT -7
Interesting their incorporating Jeff tunes into their sets now that he's gone. Idk...the whole thing is a mess. Not syre I care either way at this point. Im still sad to think about the state of mind jeff was in the night he decided to take his own life... He had life, kids, and a hope of a better tomorrow. The whole thing sucks! stonewalled him after breakup to protect their fanbase cash cow>lie about stuff after his death>start playing his songs after his death to try and gain back fanbase they should change the name
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Post by salmon401 on Jan 18, 2020 10:08:55 GMT -7
Someone should start referring to all their old songs as “^Yonder Mountain cover” on their setlists.
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Post by bear on Jul 20, 2020 12:21:38 GMT -7
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Post by saulgoodman on Jul 20, 2020 17:33:21 GMT -7
They should have just ended yonder when they split with Jeff imo. The rest of the guys could start their own new band. Also there should be no wsp without jb, no moe. without Rob, and no phish without trey. If there can be a WSP w/o Mikey, there definitely can be a WSP w/o JB.
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Post by saulgoodman on Jul 20, 2020 18:10:33 GMT -7
Which Jeff songs did YMSB start playing after his death?
I'm not saying Yall are right or wrong about that, but I did a legitimate perusal of recent YMSB setlists, and I didn't see any.
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Post by waldowally on Jul 20, 2020 18:14:17 GMT -7
they did several after he died for a while, maybe they backed it off after that
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Post by saulgoodman on Jul 20, 2020 18:25:49 GMT -7
I do recall them renewing Half Moon Rising shortly after his passing, specifically as a tribute to Jeff. But, I don't see any others even close to the time of his passing. I think that's the only one.
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Post by bussit on Jul 21, 2020 6:59:30 GMT -7
They should have just ended yonder when they split with Jeff imo. The rest of the guys could start their own new band. Also there should be no wsp without jb, no moe. without Rob, and no phish without trey. If there can be a WSP w/o Mikey, there definitely can be a WSP w/o JB. idk about that. Now that jb does so much of the singing it's impossible for me imagine wsp without him. I don't think anyone wants to see that.
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Post by treetophigh on Jul 22, 2020 19:59:18 GMT -7
I have some resentment to Ben, but I dont know if Id put that all on him. Im not aware of the business fallout regarding song rights, royalties, etc. but I think Jeff struggled with balancing life and his mind, just as many folks do. We dont always win, way she goes... We dont always win, way she goes...
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Post by DisinformationGovernanceBoard on Jul 23, 2020 9:52:06 GMT -7
A guy I know (Jamie) from AA committed suicide a couple days ago. Made me think of Jeff. I was recently clean (...again) last year when it happened so Jeff's suicide really rocked me because I know all to well that hopeless state of mind. Stay safe everyone. Love you all. :-) Its a good day to be a good day. RIP Jamie and Jeff.
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Post by goodtimes on Jul 23, 2020 9:57:10 GMT -7
Rest in peace brothers
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Post by saulgoodman on Jul 23, 2020 16:44:22 GMT -7
If there can be a WSP w/o Mikey, there definitely can be a WSP w/o JB. idk about that. Now that jb does so much of the singing it's impossible for me imagine wsp without him. I don't think anyone wants to see that. Good point. I wasn't thinking about it that way, i guess. I was thinking more like if JB had died instead of Mikey. In that case, they certainly could have carried on w/o JB. But yeah, if he had to leave 4 whatever reason right now, they couldn't carry on as WSP--would be have to be something like Fatso and friends.
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Post by goodtimes on Mar 12, 2021 15:30:53 GMT -7
The new yonder has done a few video compilation quarantine videos that are just awful. Individual recordings and green screens mixed together. Then the singer is mouthing it.
1 is Jolene and had like 200 views after a month on a channel with 2000 subscribers.
The new one is steep grade sharp curves, a song they havnt played since Jeff left the band. The new Mando player sings and its pathetic.
There was a recent PT thread that had some funny comments.
Anyways yonder straight up sucks now I guess they are trying to be pop country. Then need to be banned from jam band community.
And I'm a pretty sympothic nice guy but this has gone too far.
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Post by goodtimes on Mar 12, 2021 15:33:52 GMT -7
Go ahead a give it a thumbs down. 400 views because people are sharing it how bad it is.
If you last more than 30 seconds in you are strong and brave. If you liked Jeff you will scramble to close the window
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