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Post by bussit on Jul 5, 2024 17:27:51 GMT -7
The dnc and democratic establishment is going end up giving us Trump if we leave them to it. This lady is one of the only people trying to save us.
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Post by treetophigh on Jul 5, 2024 17:50:41 GMT -7
No one can save the democratic party imo. It's a failed party. I like what it positions itself to be about sometimes but it doesn't seem sincere and they have failed at being effective in both policy and optics. I am not represented by any established party I don't think. I'll just vote with no expectation that it makes a difference, but I'll still vote and see if the American people will ever actually demand integrity in politics. I think the biggest problem is the people. That said I have no clue how to initiate the change that is required to make things better.
Just my random rant. It too, makes zero difference.
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Post by Not your moms 🌮 on Jul 5, 2024 18:40:11 GMT -7
The media wants us to have democrat or republican. And almost everyone depends on media for their disinformation. No one who wants real change will ever be given a fair chance. Find a way to dismantle the billionaire class and their media empire or accept one pile of shit or a worse pile of shit.
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Post by bussit on Jul 5, 2024 19:02:45 GMT -7
Bernie was our last real chance it seems. The democratic establishment circled the f*cking wagons when he won a few states last time. Maybe he'll swoop in and save us
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Post by ancientchad on Jul 5, 2024 19:20:24 GMT -7
No more from that generation. Tired of them all. They're done.
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Post by deadphishbiscuits on Jul 6, 2024 4:19:21 GMT -7
And that is why
Dicks/tits out for Harambe
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Post by bear on Jul 6, 2024 7:18:50 GMT -7
No one can save the democratic party imo. It's a failed party. I like what it positions itself to be about sometimes but it doesn't seem sincere and they have failed at being effective in both policy and optics. I am not represented by any established party I don't think. I'll just vote with no expectation that it makes a difference, but I'll still vote and see if the American people will ever actually demand integrity in politics. I think the biggest problem is the people. That said I have no clue how to initiate the change that is required to make things better. Just my random rant. It too, makes zero difference. disagree. They've failed in optics. The republican party is a massive failure in policy and most democratic policy failure is a result of republican obstruction and the subsequent pr blitz that blames democrats. Media is the enabler here and Republicans are vastly better at capitalizing (read: taking advantage) of the deficit. |
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Post by ancientchad on Jul 6, 2024 9:09:12 GMT -7
Republicans play much, much dirtier than Dems. Always have unfortunately.
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Post by ancientchad on Jul 6, 2024 9:15:23 GMT -7
Just think what Dems could be doing with a more significant majority... what more Joe could have accomplished...
Baffles me how people don't get that.
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Post by Not your moms 🌮 on Jul 6, 2024 10:31:44 GMT -7
The Republicans play on people's fears and hatred. For example. They are trying to take our guns. Or they want our kids to become abortion seeking transvestites. Which is 95% incorrect. Most people voting democrat are relatively reasonable and are actually just voting against Republicans.
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Post by Not your moms 🌮 on Jul 6, 2024 10:34:53 GMT -7
Just think what Dems could be doing with a more significant majority... what more Joe could have accomplished... Baffles me how people don't get that. All they would need to get a more significant majority is pick a not incoherent senile old man. But if they actually found someone that was capsble of sense we would never be able to maintain this nasty division that is driving the country down. |
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Post by bussit on Jul 6, 2024 11:40:20 GMT -7
Just think what Dems could be doing with a more significant majority... what more Joe could have accomplished... Baffles me how people don't get that. Joe accomplished all the things he stands for, nothing. I don't understand how this isn't the most obvious fact on earth. He fought for practically zero of the things he ran on, it was all bullshit. Now this mf'r has played so many games with democracy that it seems to be coming to and end. No primary No debates, just cancell it all so we can run this corrupt vertical corpse for president. |
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Post by ancientchad on Jul 6, 2024 17:33:05 GMT -7
^ ok. I'm not trying to offend you. But when you say these kind of things, it indicates to me you don't understand what you're talking about or how government actually works.
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Post by EddieBlake on Jul 6, 2024 17:44:20 GMT -7
Joe could've done a whole lot more if he was 20% more competent and his team wasn't trying to "dunk" on Trump with memes.
He hasn't done shit. The "big" student loan changes have resulted in basically nothing for anyone in my generation, the people he should be concerned with winning over. Instead, their strategy is "fuck you forever and if you don't vote for us to keep on fucking you then you get Trump"
They fucked up, not the populous.
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Post by bussit on Jul 6, 2024 18:46:13 GMT -7
^ ok. I'm not trying to offend you. But when you say these kind of things, it indicates to me you don't understand what you're talking about or how government actually works. Well, I do know what I'm talking about because I follow politics closely. Unfortunately if you are watching msnbc, you are mainlining propaganda and won't have a clue what's going on yourself. |
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Post by ancientchad on Jul 6, 2024 20:28:03 GMT -7
"Well, I do know what I'm talking about because I watch The Young Turks closely"
Fixed that for you.
Try reading Politico, The Hill, The Atlantic, etc. There's good stuff in there.
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Post by bussit on Jul 6, 2024 20:48:08 GMT -7
Remember the time I told you that running Biden for prez this time was a terrible idea? You seemed sure that it was the thing to do. How did I know?
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Post by ancientchad on Jul 7, 2024 6:25:59 GMT -7
If you want to say Biden is a selfish d'bag for not recognizing his faculties were fading and insisting on a 2nd term you won't get any arguments from me.
But if you say his first term was a complete failure and he didn't do shit, I'll continue to point out that just about everyone who isn't a MAGA says you're 100% mistaken.
By all accounts his decline has really come on within the past year or so. Sadly, hiding that fact could very well be devastating, if not criminal.
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Post by flyinghellphish on Jul 7, 2024 9:07:43 GMT -7
^ ok. I'm not trying to offend you. But when you say these kind of things, it indicates to me you don't understand what you're talking about or how government actually works. Well, I do know what I'm talking about because I follow politics closely. Unfortunately if you are watching msnbc, you are mainlining propaganda and won't have a clue what's going on yourself. hack youtube videos are so much more trustworthy. |
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Post by bussit on Jul 7, 2024 9:37:58 GMT -7
Biden's first term was a failure to me based on my own personal expectations. My expectations were based on campaign promises that turned out to be a bunch of stuff he doesn't care about, even made moves to prevent some of them from happening. Where is that voting rights bill you promised? A public option? $15 minimum wage increase? To my knowledge Biden has never mentioned any of that again after being elected. That was the meat of his campaign imo and it vanished like a fart in the wind. Now he can barely talk and we are stuck. We can thank thank the corporate media for the smoke screen and buckets of copium
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