Anti-Cop Sentiment

I've been all those things at one time or another except a king. Not even king of the slackers; I'm sure others are better than that than me.

What do I have to show for it? Experiences and memories. Not much else.

Down here the cops are corrupt. It's probably why some people pursue it as a career - all the extra $ you can make on the side. Everybody knows it, nobody particularily likes it; I've always found comfort in knowing that if I fuck up I can relatively inexpensively buy my way out of my problems instead of having to go to some shitty latin american jail.

One thing you don't see the police do here is brutalize people based on the color of their skin. Afro-Peruvians aren't killed or treated differently than anyone else by the police simply because they're black. Not to say that there isn't a history of the state treating certain members of society brutally (usually based on politics or class), but the history shows that's been more a function of the military than the municipal police.

I find police corruption far more palatable than police brutality.

The problem, imo, isn't the individual who decides to become a cop. The problem is that the institution itself is so rotten that any individual getting into the profession for the so-called 'right reasons' doesn't stand a chance. It's like the young idealistic person who decides to go into politics, gets elected, and when they arrive in Congress or the Legislature finds themself surrounded by the type of politics, corruption, and back room dealing they oppose. They soon learn that if they don't go along with party leadership and vote as they're told to on certain things that they'll be marginalized and won't have the power or support to do any of the good they want to do. Eventually, if they want to keep their job and have any say at all, they cave in and become that which they opposed when initially running for office.

Like political institutions, the police force is larger and more influential than any one officer. It's the institution that people hate. The institution is represented by the individual wearing the uniform, be it a suit and tie with an American flag lapel pin, or police blues with a badge. An individual can go into the police force with good intentions, but like the military, it operates as a larger unit with it's own personality. You can have intentions of being clean, but if you don't go on the take or have a problem with brutality, the fellow cops/soldiers you rely on won't trust you. Ultimately the choice is to go along to get along, or become completely ostracized. Most, it seems, eventually choose the former. It would seem the easier path if quiting isn't an option.

People have contempt for the institution. That gets passed down to the individuals working for the institution because they're the face of the institution. I wonder why anyone who would work for such a corrupt/violent/brutal/racist institution would do so when it's so obvious how corrupt/violent/brutal/racist the institution actually is. Granted, the comparison is to a work of fiction, but it's like defending a Imperial Stormtrooper because he's not the Imperial Empire, just a soldier within it. He's just doing his job which is to follow the orders of those who wish to bring order to the galaxy, right? And yes, to further poke holes in a comparison to a fictional universe, the whole third triology has as a main character a good stormtrooper. But he saw the Empire for what it was, was sickened by what he needed to be in order to get along within it, and rebelled against it, so.... Why would a good person sign up with the Imperial Empire? Or the Nazi party? Or a company that profits running a Ponzi or some other scam? Or the police? Or any institution inherrently rotten, no matter their stated purpose?

Most realize some form of policing is required in society, even if it's some form of self-policing on a micro-scale in an anarchist collective. I don't think anyone here is suggesting, as you imply, that it be "shut it all down." People are just sick and tired and fed up with a completely corrupt institution that is supposed to serve and protect, but for a segment of society does anything but. Somethings fucked up when completely law-abiding, church going, black grandmas (who are better, more law abiding citizens than me) have to tell their grandchildren at an early age to "watch out for the police."

I said it before when I referenced someone else's post; if someone 'good' truly wants to serve the community there are a lot better ways of doing so than strapping on gun and a badge to join an institution which overtly practices entrenched racism and doesn't seem to focus on protecting and serving. Be a fireman, a paramedic, search and rescue, etc., but don't expect to get any respect as a cop when the institution itself treats people it's supposed to be protecting and serving like shit. But those jobs don't attract the control-freak types who were hall monitors back in high school and ratted out other kids to the teacher or principal, and those being protected and served are primarily the higher ups in the system and secondarily those who faithfully obey, don't question, and otherwise fit in (i.e. are white).

Good people don't join historically unchangeable malevolent institutions. Good people oppose such institutions, if not through direct action, at a minimum by speaking out against them.

Why isnt it a changeable institution? The people are responsible for what goes on within it.

Also, it's ironic right now that police are being badmouthed (whether good or bad) and at the same time needed to shutdown the looters and the people that just want to watch shit burn.

With the Fomenter in Chief's latest shitty stunt, which he should catch plenty of Hell over, I hope it doesnt get worse just to spite Shithead. It probably will though.

It's clearly not just their personal problem. This shit happens with all different police departments in every state.

I think it's a problem with the people who choose to go into law enforcement. They're not hiring the best and brightest and that's proven.

I dont think you got what I meant....If all they have is contempt for people, then they clearly have a personal problem..


And lol about best and brightest...whatever though. 

I would say there are much better ways to give back to the community.

Same thing with any military.

www.yahoo.com/news/in-wake-of-floyd-killing-black-lives-matter-to-us-too-police-around-the-country-are-saying-170027681.html

-I posted this in the other thread too, but it fits in here.

Never arrest a user just take their shit and bring it to pops.

I guess you cant tell them what to do. Just tell them all the shit they will deal with and how people will view them no matter what actions they do.
Enforcement is not our family's game haha

I do feel bad for normal cops that have to deal with this and put on the riot gear and start throwing gas.

I doubt that is what they signed up for.

But idk, maybe it is. Some military people do it all just for the chance to blow some shit up.

I mean, when you want to be a cop what do you really want about that job.
9 out of 10 want a gun and to enforce.

It's hard for me to even imagine the 1 that is like "I want to protect this community and make it a safe place"

They probably couldn't even land a job in their town, now your not even dealing with your community members.
And I do think after a while your intentions are gone and you have joined the team